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Which limiters are good enough?
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<blockquote data-quote="Evan Kirkendall" data-source="post: 50509" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>Re: Which limiters are good enough?</p><p></p><p>I find limiters to really come in handy personally. There's 2 things that I find them useful for:</p><p></p><p>1. On my personal rigs- I keep my DSP's at FOH. When the limit light comes on, it's a stop sign for whoever is mixing. I tell my engineers when you see the red lights flashing, that's all she's got and don't turn it up anymore. It's a good way to know where you are without having to watch the amps. </p><p></p><p>2. On my touring rigs- It's hard to know in advance how hard you're going to be hitting a PA. We always try to bring in as much as possible, but sometimes that just isn't enough(weight limitations, height limitations, ect). When those "oh shit" moments occur, the limiters allow me to get the absolute most out of the system. IMO, all of the Clair rigs I take out sound their absolute best when you're just starting to tap the limiters. I know the lake limiters will keep the rig safe, and I know Clair has them dialed in to a point, where I can ride them lightly and it actually sounds really damn good. But, just a little too far and it goes to shit. It's all about knowing the limitations of the box, and keeping it within those limitations. Limiters will help you stay there, but ultimately, it comes down to using your ears. </p><p></p><p>As far as the whole "limiting an out of control engineer," I wouldn't do that either. A truly ignorant engineer will just push further into those limiters you're trying to set to keep him quiet, and you'll end up sending a higher power average to your speakers, and could do more damage than just letting him suck out loud. If anything, turn him down on the DSP and let him run out of headroom on the console. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Evan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Evan Kirkendall, post: 50509, member: 5"] Re: Which limiters are good enough? I find limiters to really come in handy personally. There's 2 things that I find them useful for: 1. On my personal rigs- I keep my DSP's at FOH. When the limit light comes on, it's a stop sign for whoever is mixing. I tell my engineers when you see the red lights flashing, that's all she's got and don't turn it up anymore. It's a good way to know where you are without having to watch the amps. 2. On my touring rigs- It's hard to know in advance how hard you're going to be hitting a PA. We always try to bring in as much as possible, but sometimes that just isn't enough(weight limitations, height limitations, ect). When those "oh shit" moments occur, the limiters allow me to get the absolute most out of the system. IMO, all of the Clair rigs I take out sound their absolute best when you're just starting to tap the limiters. I know the lake limiters will keep the rig safe, and I know Clair has them dialed in to a point, where I can ride them lightly and it actually sounds really damn good. But, just a little too far and it goes to shit. It's all about knowing the limitations of the box, and keeping it within those limitations. Limiters will help you stay there, but ultimately, it comes down to using your ears. As far as the whole "limiting an out of control engineer," I wouldn't do that either. A truly ignorant engineer will just push further into those limiters you're trying to set to keep him quiet, and you'll end up sending a higher power average to your speakers, and could do more damage than just letting him suck out loud. If anything, turn him down on the DSP and let him run out of headroom on the console. Evan [/QUOTE]
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