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Which limiters are good enough?
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<blockquote data-quote="Langston Holland" data-source="post: 50594" data-attributes="member: 171"><p>Which limiters can do more than cook?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ivan! Your stories fill me with awe. I don't know what kept you at this, but I'd have turned tail and run after <u>one</u> of your gigs. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>On limiters...</p><p></p><p>What if you really could find a beautiful woman that can cook?</p><p></p><p>An example.</p><p></p><p>The following traces were made with short term sine bursts of (4) wavelengths each at a resolution of (24) steps per octave. Continuous sine sweeps or broadband anything (pink noise, etc.) will make a limiter respond far more aggressively than it will with music. I also use music as a stimulus to prove limiter behavior and sine bursts are so close that the difference is immaterial.</p><p></p><p>The blue traces are how the low pass of a normal limiter responds that is setup for sub use. Peak threshold was 0dBu (equivalent to -3dBu RMS due to the crest factor of sine waves) and the stimulus input to the limiter varied from -10dBu (black trace only) to +15dBu. You'll notice a bit of a soft knee as well.</p><p></p><p>The blue traces show the (best case) ugliness that happens as the output is squashed by the limiter - notice how the sub is now throwing mud into the mix at the highest levels. This is what everybody tolerates on BOTH ends of each passband. Except for me, of course, as I prefer the pretty ladies. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The black traces are possible through side-chain control of the limiter's behavior. There are many more happy ramifications to this. </p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]150353[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Langston Holland, post: 50594, member: 171"] Which limiters can do more than cook? Ivan! Your stories fill me with awe. I don't know what kept you at this, but I'd have turned tail and run after [U]one[/U] of your gigs. :) On limiters... What if you really could find a beautiful woman that can cook? An example. The following traces were made with short term sine bursts of (4) wavelengths each at a resolution of (24) steps per octave. Continuous sine sweeps or broadband anything (pink noise, etc.) will make a limiter respond far more aggressively than it will with music. I also use music as a stimulus to prove limiter behavior and sine bursts are so close that the difference is immaterial. The blue traces are how the low pass of a normal limiter responds that is setup for sub use. Peak threshold was 0dBu (equivalent to -3dBu RMS due to the crest factor of sine waves) and the stimulus input to the limiter varied from -10dBu (black trace only) to +15dBu. You'll notice a bit of a soft knee as well. The blue traces show the (best case) ugliness that happens as the output is squashed by the limiter - notice how the sub is now throwing mud into the mix at the highest levels. This is what everybody tolerates on BOTH ends of each passband. Except for me, of course, as I prefer the pretty ladies. :) The black traces are possible through side-chain control of the limiter's behavior. There are many more happy ramifications to this. [ATTACH=CONFIG]150353.vB5-legacyid=3575[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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