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<blockquote data-quote="Lloyd Ritzberg" data-source="post: 129261" data-attributes="member: 3735"><p>Re: Using X32 as Mackie Control with Bitwig Studio</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Thus far i have not been able to use the X32 with the OSC script written, for remote control purposes</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Using the Mackie MCU script works fine But seems to have a bug every time the BWS transport return to zero the master fader resets with no automation recorded</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I do not no if this occurs in a real MCU vice the one emulated in the X32</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Anyone that could verify this on either real or emulated MCU please let me know.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The libation of using the MCU script is that all the automated mixing occurs "in the box"</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">With the x32 capable of 32 in and outs you might want to mix "out the box"</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Using a OSX terminal app called "x32midiosc" {please google{ I was able to do the following:</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The x32mdiosc does midi to o/c, and o/c to midi conversion while it emulates 6 Mackie MCU's</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">allowing you to use all 16 channel faders and 8 buss faders for a total os 32channel,16 buss control (with bank switch), and the master fader of the x32</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It also give the possibility of automating the X32 in a live situation while controlling levels of audio to all 32 to channels ""out the box" Using the "in the box method does not work for external mix to well as the mixes gain structure is created o</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">"in the box" and you would be destroying any gain structuring done on x32 .</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Using x32midiosc, I have gotten to the where the faders are in BWS are controlling audio in in the x32 vice just in BWS.Normally when the MCU script I am audio within BWS which being routed in stereo from the BWS master faders to two outputs of the x32 When running with x32midiosc I had to do some routing of outputs </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">because you controlling both mix in BWS</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The mix can now take place in the x32 vice BWS and the MIX in the x32</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So the solution was two create 2 mixes one BWS one x32</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Here how, first iI defeat the main output of BWS (Which is routed to out 31/32 without a external EFX router on the master track</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It is then muted on the x32 ch 31/32 to avoid feedback. THen I put a external EFX router on every audio/instrument track in BWS and route it each individual out to input channel on the x32</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The control is bi-directional, the caveat is that you must create 32 audio/instrument tracks, and 16 EFX returns in BWS, for it to properly be represented on the x32 32 mixer channels and 16 busses channels and the master fader.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It will work without this setup in BWS but what is seen on the BWS GUI will not match whats is on the x32 faders</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">the last thing to remember is that stereo or mono in BWS is represented by one fader.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">If a instrument track is routed in stereo via the external EFX router in BWS {one fader the BWS nixer) two faders on the x32 it may lead to some confusion as to what you are controlling.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">If the tracks are routed in mono then the BWS/x32 mixer relationship is one to one </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">To bet the mix coming from BWS enable its master Fader (i have this routed to outputs 31/32 on x32 which are muted there also</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The individual channels on the x32 must be muted to avoid feedback as the main mix is coming from BWS </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">For those that like the idea of mixing "out the box" but also don't want to give up the "in the box option.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">With some clever routing to a multi i/o audio interace or Multi i/o digital mixer you can have the nest of both</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I pretty sure that The Presonus digital mixers have OSC Capability also.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Please excuse any typos I am a one finger kind of guy with bad eyesight.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p style="text-align: right"></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lloyd Ritzberg, post: 129261, member: 3735"] Re: Using X32 as Mackie Control with Bitwig Studio [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana]Thus far i have not been able to use the X32 with the OSC script written, for remote control purposes Using the Mackie MCU script works fine But seems to have a bug every time the BWS transport return to zero the master fader resets with no automation recorded I do not no if this occurs in a real MCU vice the one emulated in the X32 Anyone that could verify this on either real or emulated MCU please let me know. The libation of using the MCU script is that all the automated mixing occurs "in the box" With the x32 capable of 32 in and outs you might want to mix "out the box" Using a OSX terminal app called "x32midiosc" {please google{ I was able to do the following: The x32mdiosc does midi to o/c, and o/c to midi conversion while it emulates 6 Mackie MCU's allowing you to use all 16 channel faders and 8 buss faders for a total os 32channel,16 buss control (with bank switch), and the master fader of the x32 It also give the possibility of automating the X32 in a live situation while controlling levels of audio to all 32 to channels ""out the box" Using the "in the box method does not work for external mix to well as the mixes gain structure is created o "in the box" and you would be destroying any gain structuring done on x32 . Using x32midiosc, I have gotten to the where the faders are in BWS are controlling audio in in the x32 vice just in BWS.Normally when the MCU script I am audio within BWS which being routed in stereo from the BWS master faders to two outputs of the x32 When running with x32midiosc I had to do some routing of outputs because you controlling both mix in BWS The mix can now take place in the x32 vice BWS and the MIX in the x32 So the solution was two create 2 mixes one BWS one x32 Here how, first iI defeat the main output of BWS (Which is routed to out 31/32 without a external EFX router on the master track It is then muted on the x32 ch 31/32 to avoid feedback. THen I put a external EFX router on every audio/instrument track in BWS and route it each individual out to input channel on the x32 The control is bi-directional, the caveat is that you must create 32 audio/instrument tracks, and 16 EFX returns in BWS, for it to properly be represented on the x32 32 mixer channels and 16 busses channels and the master fader. It will work without this setup in BWS but what is seen on the BWS GUI will not match whats is on the x32 faders the last thing to remember is that stereo or mono in BWS is represented by one fader. If a instrument track is routed in stereo via the external EFX router in BWS {one fader the BWS nixer) two faders on the x32 it may lead to some confusion as to what you are controlling. If the tracks are routed in mono then the BWS/x32 mixer relationship is one to one To bet the mix coming from BWS enable its master Fader (i have this routed to outputs 31/32 on x32 which are muted there also The individual channels on the x32 must be muted to avoid feedback as the main mix is coming from BWS For those that like the idea of mixing "out the box" but also don't want to give up the "in the box option. With some clever routing to a multi i/o audio interace or Multi i/o digital mixer you can have the nest of both I pretty sure that The Presonus digital mixers have OSC Capability also. Please excuse any typos I am a one finger kind of guy with bad eyesight. [/FONT][/COLOR] [RIGHT][COLOR=#536482][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR][/RIGHT] [/QUOTE]
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