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<blockquote data-quote="John Halliburton" data-source="post: 33644" data-attributes="member: 8">Re: Yes, it&#039;s cliche, yes it&#039;s overdiscussed, but yes, I need new subs.As a rule, DSL subs cost quite a bit more than JTR product.&nbsp; There are unique features in Tom&#039;s designs using the tapped horn approach v. Jeff&#039;s slightly more traditional rear loaded design-albeit with a mother of an 18&quot; driver.&nbsp; In the end, Tom&#039;s win out for performance, but at a price.Now, I own a pair of Orbit Shifters. I&#039;ve owned Growlers. I&#039;ve listened to Lab Subs in various quantities.&nbsp; I&#039;ve listened to many of Tom&#039;s designs over the years.&nbsp; I own a pair of Servodrive subs still.I will say the Orbit Shifters are a serious bang for the buck.&nbsp; There is a DJ here in Chicago who owns a pair also, and he&#039;s borrowed mine for a couple of gigs.&nbsp; I&#039;ve used mine for a hip hop act in that 650 seater I do a lot of work in, underpowered, and I was shaking the chandeliers, loose paint, dust...it was pretty sick.One cool prospect-they are relatively small for what they are.&nbsp; I would think they&#039;d be a great candidate for subwoofer arrays(small footprint, great cost/price ratio, pretty lightweight at 160lbs.), so you could buy a dozen and do some cool stuff.Silas, you should get some Orbit Shifters to demo.Best regards,John</blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Halliburton, post: 33644, member: 8"] Re: Yes, it's cliche, yes it's overdiscussed, but yes, I need new subs. As a rule, DSL subs cost quite a bit more than JTR product. There are unique features in Tom's designs using the tapped horn approach v. Jeff's slightly more traditional rear loaded design-albeit with a mother of an 18" driver. In the end, Tom's win out for performance, but at a price. Now, I own a pair of Orbit Shifters. I've owned Growlers. I've listened to Lab Subs in various quantities. I've listened to many of Tom's designs over the years. I own a pair of Servodrive subs still. I will say the Orbit Shifters are a serious bang for the buck. There is a DJ here in Chicago who owns a pair also, and he's borrowed mine for a couple of gigs. I've used mine for a hip hop act in that 650 seater I do a lot of work in, underpowered, and I was shaking the chandeliers, loose paint, dust...it was pretty sick. One cool prospect-they are relatively small for what they are. I would think they'd be a great candidate for subwoofer arrays(small footprint, great cost/price ratio, pretty lightweight at 160lbs.), so you could buy a dozen and do some cool stuff. Silas, you should get some Orbit Shifters to demo. Best regards, John [/QUOTE]

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