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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Babcock" data-source="post: 66080" data-attributes="member: 46">Re: You&#039;re welcome.I&#039;ve read some of Dawkins material and seen him in interviews.&nbsp; He is all about selling books and making a name for himself, and that primary motive shows loud and clear in the way that he writes, and what he says.I don&#039;t like to get into these sorts of debates, because they often go in circles.&nbsp; Nobody is going to change their worldview because of somebody&#039;s post on the internet.&nbsp; As has been discussed, wackos, nutjobs, people seeking to support their own agenda etc have frequently mis-used the Bible and Christianity, doing some really stupid stuff - essentially creating a &quot;smear&quot; campaign from within - and that isn&#039;t going to change anytime soon.&nbsp; The same can be said for Muslims and other religious groups.Filtering out these sorts of cases from our radar can leave us finding some pretty reasonable Christians, some Muslims that DON&#039;T want &quot;death to America&quot;, etc.&nbsp; TJ&#039;s points seem pretty reasonable IMHO.The religious groups who are anti-science are IMHO part of that fringe group too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeff Babcock, post: 66080, member: 46"] Re: You're welcome. I've read some of Dawkins material and seen him in interviews. He is all about selling books and making a name for himself, and that primary motive shows loud and clear in the way that he writes, and what he says. I don't like to get into these sorts of debates, because they often go in circles. Nobody is going to change their worldview because of somebody's post on the internet. As has been discussed, wackos, nutjobs, people seeking to support their own agenda etc have frequently mis-used the Bible and Christianity, doing some really stupid stuff - essentially creating a "smear" campaign from within - and that isn't going to change anytime soon. The same can be said for Muslims and other religious groups. Filtering out these sorts of cases from our radar can leave us finding some pretty reasonable Christians, some Muslims that DON'T want "death to America", etc. TJ's points seem pretty reasonable IMHO. The religious groups who are anti-science are IMHO part of that fringe group too. [/QUOTE]

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