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<blockquote data-quote="Caleb Dueck" data-source="post: 66235" data-attributes="member: 60">Two degrees of the term &quot;evolve&quot; - 1) Adaptation, and 2) Change from one species to another.&nbsp; Very few challenge the first, it can and has been well documented.&nbsp; Theists reject the second one (and thus the theory of evolution) because there is no documentation of the second.&nbsp; Hybrids yes, but not adaptation so much that the species changed.&nbsp; The &quot;millions and billions&quot; of years seems like a cop-out for &quot;we don&#039;t have the data points to support our theory, but the theory has to be right!&quot;. We won&#039;t have all the data points until we can step outside time. Until then, we need to critically see how well various theories square with the data we do have, with the fewest points that have to be left to faith.&nbsp; Everyone has faith in something, whether evolution or creationism or aliens or the Bible or something else.&nbsp; It&#039;s hard to objectively think if the assumption that the evolution theory (for example) is proven fact. It&#039;s not, it&#039;s one theory among many with plenty of questions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caleb Dueck, post: 66235, member: 60"] Two degrees of the term "evolve" - 1) Adaptation, and 2) Change from one species to another. Very few challenge the first, it can and has been well documented. Theists reject the second one (and thus the theory of evolution) because there is no documentation of the second. Hybrids yes, but not adaptation so much that the species changed. The "millions and billions" of years seems like a cop-out for "we don't have the data points to support our theory, but the theory has to be right!". We won't have all the data points until we can step outside time. Until then, we need to critically see how well various theories square with the data we do have, with the fewest points that have to be left to faith. Everyone has faith in something, whether evolution or creationism or aliens or the Bible or something else. It's hard to objectively think if the assumption that the evolution theory (for example) is proven fact. It's not, it's one theory among many with plenty of questions. [/QUOTE]

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