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<blockquote data-quote="Mike Brown" data-source="post: 66549" data-attributes="member: 1310"><p>Re: You're welcome.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is 100% factually inaccurate. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design#Of_Pandas_and_People" target="_blank">Intelligent design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p><p></p><p>The idea behind "if we don't know, god did it" is certainly NOT a solely christian idea, but "intelligent design" is a christian lobbying force written for the sole purpose for teaching creationism in schools after Edwards v. Aguillard. This is an indisputable fact. The founders of "intelligent design" have stated this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Biology dealt in facts BECAUSE THEY ARE FACTS. Evolution is <strong><u>both</u></strong> a theory and a fact. This is biology 101. Evolution as a theory is the framework which ties together seemingly disconnected facts and observances. Evolution as a fact are all the specific and irrefutable evidence that we use to support the theory. What you learned in biology class is not up to debate. </p><p></p><p>This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the word "scientific theory". </p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Times'">"Well evolution </span></span><em>is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The entire reason scientists research the universe is because we KNOW that ultimately we currently know very little about it. Our best guesses are NOT un-formed ideas, as they can be proven through scientific test. You can even do the tests yourself and come up with the same conclusions. This is not the case with creationism (or any other religious idea on the origin of humans).</p><p></p><p>We know exponentially more about the universe (ando ourselves) now, than we did 5 years ago. We will know exponentially more in the next 5 years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Brown, post: 66549, member: 1310"] Re: You're welcome. That is 100% factually inaccurate. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design#Of_Pandas_and_People"]Intelligent design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL] The idea behind "if we don't know, god did it" is certainly NOT a solely christian idea, but "intelligent design" is a christian lobbying force written for the sole purpose for teaching creationism in schools after Edwards v. Aguillard. This is an indisputable fact. The founders of "intelligent design" have stated this. Biology dealt in facts BECAUSE THEY ARE FACTS. Evolution is [B][U]both[/U][/B] a theory and a fact. This is biology 101. Evolution as a theory is the framework which ties together seemingly disconnected facts and observances. Evolution as a fact are all the specific and irrefutable evidence that we use to support the theory. What you learned in biology class is not up to debate. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the word "scientific theory". [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Times]"Well evolution [/FONT][/COLOR][I]is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."[/I] The entire reason scientists research the universe is because we KNOW that ultimately we currently know very little about it. Our best guesses are NOT un-formed ideas, as they can be proven through scientific test. You can even do the tests yourself and come up with the same conclusions. This is not the case with creationism (or any other religious idea on the origin of humans). We know exponentially more about the universe (ando ourselves) now, than we did 5 years ago. We will know exponentially more in the next 5 years. [/QUOTE]
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