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<blockquote data-quote="Mike Brown" data-source="post: 66603" data-attributes="member: 1310"><p>Re: You're welcome.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hi Phil,</p><p></p><p>I am making a distinction between teleological arguments (which go back thousands of years and span religions) vs the Intelligent Design theory promoted initially by the Discovery Institute. The common usage of the term "Intelligent Design" refers to the more modern "god of the gaps" argument. :razz: Please clarify further if I am still misunderstanding you. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The difference is that proponents of creationism/ID are attributing the unknown mechanisms are god (which, IMO, is intellectually lazy and dishonest), while scientists continue to research, test, and question.</p><p></p><p>There are many mechanisms that we used to attribute to god, but now understand and can calculate. </p><p></p><p>Evolution is merely a framework which ties all of these mechanisms which we now understand together and the evidence all startlingly tells us we are researching in the right direction.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There is a difference, in my opinion, is that one is testing the facts and asking what conclusions can we draw, the other is assuming the conclusion and looking for facts to support it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Brown, post: 66603, member: 1310"] Re: You're welcome. Hi Phil, I am making a distinction between teleological arguments (which go back thousands of years and span religions) vs the Intelligent Design theory promoted initially by the Discovery Institute. The common usage of the term "Intelligent Design" refers to the more modern "god of the gaps" argument. :razz: Please clarify further if I am still misunderstanding you. The difference is that proponents of creationism/ID are attributing the unknown mechanisms are god (which, IMO, is intellectually lazy and dishonest), while scientists continue to research, test, and question. There are many mechanisms that we used to attribute to god, but now understand and can calculate. Evolution is merely a framework which ties all of these mechanisms which we now understand together and the evidence all startlingly tells us we are researching in the right direction. There is a difference, in my opinion, is that one is testing the facts and asking what conclusions can we draw, the other is assuming the conclusion and looking for facts to support it. [/QUOTE]
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