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<blockquote data-quote="Phil Lewandowski" data-source="post: 66666" data-attributes="member: 44"><p>Re: You're welcome.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The key thing is we live *as if* the physical universe does actually exist, that we can actually know something objectively true about it, and that we are in a causal relationship with it and other beings within it--and it is philosophy's job to show that it is rational to live as we are living and to connect all the dots so we are living consistently and to explain those</p><p></p><p>I do come across some that would say something along the lines of--I don't care if this physical universe actually exists and that it may not actually exist. The thing is that leads to what is called a "lived contradiction." Meaning their philosophy and how they are actually living are contradictory.</p><p></p><p>Our goal should be to hold a philosophy that is consistent with how we are living our life. So if we are living our life as if the physical universe actually matters then our philosophy should reflect that.</p><p></p><p>----</p><p></p><p>I also know that for many people this couldn't matter any less to them, and the simple answer is to tell them to live as they are with the valid assumption that the physical universe does actually exist and leave the in-depth work to the philosophers. Unfortunately when you also tell them that one of the things that falls out of this is the knowledge that there is a single, unique being that can be known as pure act of existence which we more commonly call God, which then natural law morality falls out of this, many will start to get angry and go back to the ways of holding an intellectual inconsistent philosophy. But it isn't our job to throw this in people's faces and force them to believe what we do. We simply present what we have found to be the truth, and if they come along--great, if not--that is their choice. (Now that doesn't mean that both are right where truth is purely subjective and two contradictory positions can be correct.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>In all, yourself living as if the physical world actually exists is justified, so you have no need to worry and you can feel free to leave the heavy lifting to those darn philosophizers. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Take Care,</p><p>Phil</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Phil Lewandowski, post: 66666, member: 44"] Re: You're welcome. The key thing is we live *as if* the physical universe does actually exist, that we can actually know something objectively true about it, and that we are in a causal relationship with it and other beings within it--and it is philosophy's job to show that it is rational to live as we are living and to connect all the dots so we are living consistently and to explain those I do come across some that would say something along the lines of--I don't care if this physical universe actually exists and that it may not actually exist. The thing is that leads to what is called a "lived contradiction." Meaning their philosophy and how they are actually living are contradictory. Our goal should be to hold a philosophy that is consistent with how we are living our life. So if we are living our life as if the physical universe actually matters then our philosophy should reflect that. ---- I also know that for many people this couldn't matter any less to them, and the simple answer is to tell them to live as they are with the valid assumption that the physical universe does actually exist and leave the in-depth work to the philosophers. Unfortunately when you also tell them that one of the things that falls out of this is the knowledge that there is a single, unique being that can be known as pure act of existence which we more commonly call God, which then natural law morality falls out of this, many will start to get angry and go back to the ways of holding an intellectual inconsistent philosophy. But it isn't our job to throw this in people's faces and force them to believe what we do. We simply present what we have found to be the truth, and if they come along--great, if not--that is their choice. (Now that doesn't mean that both are right where truth is purely subjective and two contradictory positions can be correct.) In all, yourself living as if the physical world actually exists is justified, so you have no need to worry and you can feel free to leave the heavy lifting to those darn philosophizers. :) Take Care, Phil [/QUOTE]
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