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Yes indeed Gordon, obviously your Meyers are too old for front line service. Your only recourse is to sell them to me (for very little as they are no longer "in demand") I'm sure I could find use for them as a K-Mart paging system or some such.

All that remains now is for Dick to help me extract my tongue from my cheek...
 
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I know where some UPA1a speakers are being used for a paging system, they've been there since new and were supposed to be temporary then, but nearly 30 years later are still hanging and still powered by the original amps and controllers, the amps have new fans in them and one controller needed some work 2 or 3 years ago but that is it. They do the job perfectly and now that there is a coffee shop in the foyer they actually play some music now.
 
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Nice to hear, Gordon - Dad sounds like a classy guy. Good for you for not calling the kid a little radge c**t poser, even though he was being arrogant and ignorant. Hopefully, you'll get some further business when people are looking for a cool headed pro.

Mods or OP, you need to fix this post ASAP!!!
 
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Would that work? Isn't the control voltage of a DCA essentially DC? Would a normal compressor pass and process a DC signal?

Mick Berg.

You don't actually process the VCA voltage, you use the resulting signal from an external process to control the voltage going back into the board to control the buses. Like side chain control, which works along the exact same principle. If you have a compressor with a side chain signal with compatible voltage, you can feed that into the vca input on the desk and do wonderful things.

Not that such a thing would make the UPAs any younger and a better match for the Qs the kid probably wantet, just to stir the pot a bit :razz:
 
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Would that work? Isn't the control voltage of a DCA essentially DC? Would a normal compressor pass and process a DC signal?

Mick Berg.
Actually the VCA is DC-"Voltage Controlled Amplifier". The DC voltage just sets the gain of the amp. There is no audio on the line.

A DCA is a Digitally Controlled Amplifer.

Neither one would pass through a compressor.
 
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Actually the VCA is DC-"Voltage Controlled Amplifier". The DC voltage just sets the gain of the amp. There is no audio on the line.

A DCA is a Digitally Controlled Amplifer.

Neither one would pass through a compressor.

Right, but you *could* have some kind of "DCA EQ" function that applied that EQ to each assigned channel, along with those channels' own EQ. IE each channel would have a second set of DSP for EQ, controlled by the master EQ on the DCA. Obviously there are complications with this, like what happens when you assign to more than one DCA.

You could even implement compression. A summed signal of all the DCA members sent to an outboard compressor, and the amplitude envelope of the output captured and analyzed to provide a control signal to the DCA master. Likely there would be all manner of issues with latency, but in theory it's sort of possible.
 
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Right, but you *could* have some kind of "DCA EQ" function.....


Maybe this can be implemented, if the DSPs are powerful enough. But with flexibility the system will get more and more complicated. And some day everybody is concentrated to run the system and not to make a good sound.
Some of the best compressors in the past, for instance, allows you to dial only one knob and that was enough.

just my 2c.
 
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Because John used the word "cunt"?

Yes, I think language as strong as that is offensive and unnecessary. I would have thought the mods would want to do something about it. But if they don't care, that's OK.

Mind you, I agree with the sentiment of the post, 100 per cent. Like the little upstarts who say they hate the sound of an LS9, and then play 100% modulated mp3's through it.

Mick Berg.
 
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Yes, I think language as strong as that is offensive and unnecessary. I would have thought the mods would want to do something about it. But if they don't care, that's OK.

Mick,

You can always block John if you are worried he will swear any more, but frankly the majority of this forum's users come from Rock & Roll where swearing is rather common. The mods (of which I am one) are not their parents, and everyone on this board is an adult. While the forum has gained great traction among the HOW community of late, this is not a paying gig - this is backstage, exchanging ideas, banging up products to see what they will do, and talking about cars. You will probably see more swearing here, you will have to decide for yourself whether it negates the benefit of any information you may find.
 
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We all waste way too much time and effort trying to change the behavior of others around us. If we spend a fraction of that energy on improving how we behave (I know I need work), we will end up in a better place.

Life is short and there's always something to offend or bother us. Did I tell you how I feel about............ :-(

JR
 
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No more to be said. If the forum doesn't mind swearing, then neither do I. Anyway you probably won't hear from me again, my interest on this forum is the Behringer X32 and I will stick to that.

Mick Berg.
 
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No more to be said. If the forum doesn't mind swearing, then neither do I. Anyway you probably won't hear from me again, my interest on this forum is the Behringer X32 and I will stick to that.

Mick Berg.
I hate to tell you-but there is A WHOLE LOT more to audio than a single piece of gear.

The more you understand in general-the better you will be able to use a piece of gear.
The more "rounded" you would be.

But hey-to each his own.
 
Anyway you probably won't hear from me again, my interest on this forum is the Behringer X32 and I will stick to that.

Mick Berg.

That's a good strategy....as long as you don't have to deal with rooms, EQ's, speakers, amps, deployment, mics, snakes, stage volume, musicians, audiences, budgets, repairs, maintenance, and all of those other pesky things we discuss.

And cars (for Bennett).