I was thinking about saying this in the Marc Lopez thread, but it probably will come off more as a rant and I doubt there's anything Marc can do about it anyway.
For me, it a frustrating procedure that Yamaha follows when choosing features for their consoles. We see this in the new consoles, but it's something they've been doing since the beginning of their release of digital consoles.
Every time a new console comes out, whether it be a more expensive/feature-rich console or a cheaper/feature-limited console, they add a new feature, but they also eliminate something great from the previous line.
The most recent example is the CL/QL line.
The CL is the more expensive console, with more faders, knobs, channels and IO.
But, the QL has the Dugan built in and I just noticed that it also has 2 inserts per channel where the CL has only 1.
Why can't the flagship consoles have everything the cheaper consoles have PLUS more? You end up having to choose between features instead of cost and IO. It's annoying.
But they've done this since the start.
The DM2000 had some great features that inexplicably were not carried over to the PM5D. I wrote about that in another thread, but things like custom layers, fader grouping, patch selection via encoder and automation were a few things that were on the DM2000 but not included on the PM5D.
The LS9 came out after the M7CL, and even though it was a cheaper, entry-level console, it had some better features like custom layers, direct recording to USB, Auto MDI-X, etc. So again, you can't have it all no matter what.
The CL looked like it might have it all, but in fact not. You can't assign pre/post eq auxes on a per channel basis as you can with the PM5D, You can't change the graphics to parametrics, it has no Dugan internally, it has one insert per channel instead of two, and so on.
It's seems it's never possible to have it all with Yamaha, you always have to give up something to get something else.
For me, it a frustrating procedure that Yamaha follows when choosing features for their consoles. We see this in the new consoles, but it's something they've been doing since the beginning of their release of digital consoles.
Every time a new console comes out, whether it be a more expensive/feature-rich console or a cheaper/feature-limited console, they add a new feature, but they also eliminate something great from the previous line.
The most recent example is the CL/QL line.
The CL is the more expensive console, with more faders, knobs, channels and IO.
But, the QL has the Dugan built in and I just noticed that it also has 2 inserts per channel where the CL has only 1.
Why can't the flagship consoles have everything the cheaper consoles have PLUS more? You end up having to choose between features instead of cost and IO. It's annoying.
But they've done this since the start.
The DM2000 had some great features that inexplicably were not carried over to the PM5D. I wrote about that in another thread, but things like custom layers, fader grouping, patch selection via encoder and automation were a few things that were on the DM2000 but not included on the PM5D.
The LS9 came out after the M7CL, and even though it was a cheaper, entry-level console, it had some better features like custom layers, direct recording to USB, Auto MDI-X, etc. So again, you can't have it all no matter what.
The CL looked like it might have it all, but in fact not. You can't assign pre/post eq auxes on a per channel basis as you can with the PM5D, You can't change the graphics to parametrics, it has no Dugan internally, it has one insert per channel instead of two, and so on.
It's seems it's never possible to have it all with Yamaha, you always have to give up something to get something else.
erformance ratio. Brand value helped too, but things like the Presonus and X32 products are clawing some of that back.
