Looks like Allen and Heath released an updated version of the iLive series stuff.
http://dlive.allen-heath.com/
http://dlive.allen-heath.com/
Allen and Heath DLive Series
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https://api.viglink.com/api/click?f...ww.allen-heath.com/allen-hea...mixing-series/
Yes they have. Its more than an up date - 96KHz, 128 in, 64 out, GEQ on all outputs, 16 effects/busses, dual 12 inch screens, FPGA based ... and, and ... in terms of power I think its comparable to an XL8, SD10 etc. This is a very serious Pro desk from the Allen & Heath at a respectable price.
https://api.viglink.com/api/click?f...ww.allen-heath.com/allen-hea...mixing-series/
Yes they have. Its more than an up date - 96KHz, 128 in, 64 out, GEQ on all outputs, 16 effects/busses, dual 12 inch screens, FPGA based ... and, and ... in terms of power I think its comparable to an XL8, SD10 etc. This is a very serious Pro desk from the Allen & Heath at a respectable price.
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Prices range from $22,500 for a small dLive venue solution to approximately $35,000 for a large touring system.
Not a Lounge type console.
Prices range from $22,500 for a small dLive venue solution to approximately $35,000 for a large touring system.
Not a Lounge type console.
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I think you are correct - FWIW here is a copy of what I posted on Prosoundweb
Just to give you an idea of how powerful the d-Live is I have done a quick comparison. It’s a bit tricky to find the information and difficult to do a really good comparison because of the different way things are specified, so I have taken my best guess … please excuse any mistakes
• Digico – SD7 – 48/96/192 KHz, 256 processing channels, 128 busses, GEQs 32, EFX 48, 5.1 capable, Latency 1.1ms
• AVID SL6 / EL6-192 – 48/96 KHz, 192 processing channels, 96 busses, 32 GEQs, Plug-ins 200, DCA’s 24
• Midas Pro X – 96KHz, 168 processing channels, 99 busses, 36 GEQs, 40 EFX, 5.1 capable, latency 2ms
• dLive – 96KHz, 160 processing channels, 64 busses, 64 GEQs, 16 EFX, 5.1 capable, Latency 0.58ms, DCA’s 24
• Digico SD10 - 48/96 KHz, 96 /108 processing channels, 71 busses, GEQs 24, EFX 16, Latency 1.1ms, DCA’s 24
• Soundcraft Vi6 – 48/96 KHz, 96 inputs, 35 busses, latency 2ms, 16 DCA’s
I think you are correct - FWIW here is a copy of what I posted on Prosoundweb
Just to give you an idea of how powerful the d-Live is I have done a quick comparison. It’s a bit tricky to find the information and difficult to do a really good comparison because of the different way things are specified, so I have taken my best guess … please excuse any mistakes
• Digico – SD7 – 48/96/192 KHz, 256 processing channels, 128 busses, GEQs 32, EFX 48, 5.1 capable, Latency 1.1ms
• AVID SL6 / EL6-192 – 48/96 KHz, 192 processing channels, 96 busses, 32 GEQs, Plug-ins 200, DCA’s 24
• Midas Pro X – 96KHz, 168 processing channels, 99 busses, 36 GEQs, 40 EFX, 5.1 capable, latency 2ms
• dLive – 96KHz, 160 processing channels, 64 busses, 64 GEQs, 16 EFX, 5.1 capable, Latency 0.58ms, DCA’s 24
• Digico SD10 - 48/96 KHz, 96 /108 processing channels, 71 busses, GEQs 24, EFX 16, Latency 1.1ms, DCA’s 24
• Soundcraft Vi6 – 48/96 KHz, 96 inputs, 35 busses, latency 2ms, 16 DCA’s
Re: Allen and Heath DLive Series
The latency is very appealing to me. Seems perfect for monitor world.I think you are correct - FWIW here is a copy of what I posted on Prosoundweb
Just to give you an idea of how powerful the d-Live is I have done a quick comparison. It’s a bit tricky to find the information and difficult to do a really good comparison because of the different way things are specified, so I have taken my best guess … please excuse any mistakes
• Digico – SD7 – 48/96/192 KHz, 256 processing channels, 128 busses, GEQs 32, EFX 48, 5.1 capable, Latency 1.1ms
• AVID SL6 / EL6-192 – 48/96 KHz, 192 processing channels, 96 busses, 32 GEQs, Plug-ins 200, DCA’s 24
• Midas Pro X – 96KHz, 168 processing channels, 99 busses, 36 GEQs, 40 EFX, 5.1 capable, latency 2ms
• dLive – 96KHz, 160 processing channels, 64 busses, 64 GEQs, 16 EFX, 5.1 capable, Latency 0.58ms, DCA’s 24
• Digico SD10 - 48/96 KHz, 96 /108 processing channels, 71 busses, GEQs 24, EFX 16, Latency 1.1ms, DCA’s 24
• Soundcraft Vi6 – 48/96 KHz, 96 inputs, 35 busses, latency 2ms, 16 DCA’s
Re: Allen and Heath DLive Series
The literature seems to indicate dLive has 128 input processing channels in the traditional sense, the last 32 of 160 being dedicated FX returns. Also, the 64 busses includes matrices of their function style, where the Digico is more of a traditional XbyX matrix. I think this desk looks excellent. I've really been opened up to Allen Heath as a brand since my GLD purchase.
The literature seems to indicate dLive has 128 input processing channels in the traditional sense, the last 32 of 160 being dedicated FX returns. Also, the 64 busses includes matrices of their function style, where the Digico is more of a traditional XbyX matrix. I think this desk looks excellent. I've really been opened up to Allen Heath as a brand since my GLD purchase.
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Ya, I didn't feel like I was worthy enough to post in the Varsity section :lol:, but if someone wants to move it to there....by all means.
Ya, I didn't feel like I was worthy enough to post in the Varsity section :lol:, but if someone wants to move it to there....by all means.
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The 96kHz sample rate does help it seems...
Curious if the other figures are worst case or at whatever sample rate?
Maybe the specs of midas having higher latency, because of delay added to compensate for effects processors etc. (who add latency) to avoid timing problems resulting in phasing?
But off course especial for monitor duty less latency is more important.
Is this a allen & heath, digico or calrec design? Or some in between?
Curious if they will produce / market a sort of the same console, but with the digico branding... (Similar to midas M32 behringer X32)
The 96kHz sample rate does help it seems...
Curious if the other figures are worst case or at whatever sample rate?
Maybe the specs of midas having higher latency, because of delay added to compensate for effects processors etc. (who add latency) to avoid timing problems resulting in phasing?
But off course especial for monitor duty less latency is more important.
Is this a allen & heath, digico or calrec design? Or some in between?
Curious if they will produce / market a sort of the same console, but with the digico branding... (Similar to midas M32 behringer X32)
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Even with no latency compensation the Midas Pro doesn't get anywhere near that 0.6ms. So that's pretty good.
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If latency is halved at 96khz compared to 48khz In wonder what the X/M32 could do latency wise at 96khz or what midas/Behringer could come up with. They have already got sub 1ms @ 48khz so I reckon at 96khz they should easily be able to create a mixer that matches/exceeds the latency of the dlive.
If latency is halved at 96khz compared to 48khz In wonder what the X/M32 could do latency wise at 96khz or what midas/Behringer could come up with. They have already got sub 1ms @ 48khz so I reckon at 96khz they should easily be able to create a mixer that matches/exceeds the latency of the dlive.
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If they have enough power under the hood, they could indeed almost halve the latency. Which I doubt, else they would have added that feature to the M32 at least.