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Attempting to bring clarity to the nuclear problems facing Japan
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<blockquote data-quote="John Roberts" data-source="post: 42903" data-attributes="member: 126"><p>Re: Attempting to bring clarity to the nuclear problems facing Japan</p><p></p><p></p><p>What party am I spewing some line for? I don't even have any stock investments in NG because I am afraid of possible regulatory moves. For the record I do own some oil stock (but not exxon who has a NG operation). </p><p>====</p><p>If that list of chemicals is troublesome you don't want to read about the slurry they throw down oil wells. </p><p></p><p>The fraking fluid is 98+% water... some acid up front, later, and it didn't see it listed on that wiki page, they use guar gum a food thickening agent and stuff like that, to help seal up the fissures. Sand and silicon, no doubt some small amounts of nasty stuff. </p><p></p><p>The concern is about this goop leaking back up and out of the drill hole, and how they re-process the used well water at the well head. These processes use a lot of water, and that's another real issue in many parts of the world.</p><p></p><p>The oil industry has a well deserved bad reputation for environmental abuse from dumping toxic oil drilling waste in LA, MS, and there's a huge case down in SA that's been tangled up in the courts for years. </p><p></p><p>Fraking IMO in not inherently dirty or dangerous. Of course the oil industry because of it's past bad behavior needs to be kept on a short leash, and I suspect the regulators have been all up in their tail pipes. </p><p></p><p>Surely you don't suggest the current administration is looking the other way and giving them a free pass.. If they had a smoking gun, they wouldn't be pulling their punches. What are they saving it for? </p><p></p><p>The government is getting ready to file some criminal charges related to the BP/RIG/et al Macondo well disaster... the negligence in that case (IMO) was criminal and caused loss of human life as well as disrupted the regions economy, but AFAIK they are going to get busted like Martha Stewart was for lying to the FEDs on some reports. Whatever, they took Al Capone down on income tax evasion. I guess the public needs a pound of flesh and a perp walk for closure.. The manufacturer who supplied the faulty well head blow-out preventer was already sued and made a large settlement. </p><p></p><p>Lets say opinions vary about fraking, I've shared mine.. Perhaps less dangerous than geo-thermal, one of those clean, green, ones.</p><p></p><p>JR</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Roberts, post: 42903, member: 126"] Re: Attempting to bring clarity to the nuclear problems facing Japan What party am I spewing some line for? I don't even have any stock investments in NG because I am afraid of possible regulatory moves. For the record I do own some oil stock (but not exxon who has a NG operation). ==== If that list of chemicals is troublesome you don't want to read about the slurry they throw down oil wells. The fraking fluid is 98+% water... some acid up front, later, and it didn't see it listed on that wiki page, they use guar gum a food thickening agent and stuff like that, to help seal up the fissures. Sand and silicon, no doubt some small amounts of nasty stuff. The concern is about this goop leaking back up and out of the drill hole, and how they re-process the used well water at the well head. These processes use a lot of water, and that's another real issue in many parts of the world. The oil industry has a well deserved bad reputation for environmental abuse from dumping toxic oil drilling waste in LA, MS, and there's a huge case down in SA that's been tangled up in the courts for years. Fraking IMO in not inherently dirty or dangerous. Of course the oil industry because of it's past bad behavior needs to be kept on a short leash, and I suspect the regulators have been all up in their tail pipes. Surely you don't suggest the current administration is looking the other way and giving them a free pass.. If they had a smoking gun, they wouldn't be pulling their punches. What are they saving it for? The government is getting ready to file some criminal charges related to the BP/RIG/et al Macondo well disaster... the negligence in that case (IMO) was criminal and caused loss of human life as well as disrupted the regions economy, but AFAIK they are going to get busted like Martha Stewart was for lying to the FEDs on some reports. Whatever, they took Al Capone down on income tax evasion. I guess the public needs a pound of flesh and a perp walk for closure.. The manufacturer who supplied the faulty well head blow-out preventer was already sued and made a large settlement. Lets say opinions vary about fraking, I've shared mine.. Perhaps less dangerous than geo-thermal, one of those clean, green, ones. JR [/QUOTE]
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