Can You Say Ear Training
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Plus, she's obviously on ears too. Wedges must have been pretty darned loud.
John
Plus, she's obviously on ears too. Wedges must have been pretty darned loud.
John
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500hz ish? cut it.
Oh shoot just read the eq sweeping thread where they are talking about the importance of this frequency in the lead vocal. Damn every time I try to make a technical comment.
500hz ish? cut it.
Oh shoot just read the eq sweeping thread where they are talking about the importance of this frequency in the lead vocal. Damn every time I try to make a technical comment.
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This is the reason I always have an iPad attached to my solo channel with the Smart Tools spectrograph running. If there's a frequency causing me trouble, it'll show up on the graph for easy identification. Sure helps confirm my initial guess to fix the problem.
This is the reason I always have an iPad attached to my solo channel with the Smart Tools spectrograph running. If there's a frequency causing me trouble, it'll show up on the graph for easy identification. Sure helps confirm my initial guess to fix the problem.
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On a show that sized, unacceptable. Not that smaller shows are less important, but the caliber of equipment and talent is usually less as well. Someone messed up.
On a show that sized, unacceptable. Not that smaller shows are less important, but the caliber of equipment and talent is usually less as well. Someone messed up.
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Anybody want to bet that if the FOH had been analog gear the problem would have been fixed in about 2 seconds?
I suspect a "digital delay" in getting to the proper control element to rectify the situation.......
Anybody want to bet that if the FOH had been analog gear the problem would have been fixed in about 2 seconds?
I suspect a "digital delay" in getting to the proper control element to rectify the situation.......
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I like the way she and the band handled it. Very professional-not freaking out-no yelling-no blaming and making it as though it was part of the song.
I bet the majority of the audience was not even aware of what was going on. THAT is the mark of a professional
I like the way she and the band handled it. Very professional-not freaking out-no yelling-no blaming and making it as though it was part of the song.
I bet the majority of the audience was not even aware of what was going on. THAT is the mark of a professional
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I can't think of a (modern) digital console where you cant get the graphic EQ on the controls in 2 seconds or less.
Its not like this kind of thing has never happened with an analog console.
I can't think of a (modern) digital console where you cant get the graphic EQ on the controls in 2 seconds or less.
Its not like this kind of thing has never happened with an analog console.
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Still...it happens to everyone eventually. Maybe it was airplane ears that weren't adjusted yet? That always kills my ears.
I'm as equally surprised/non-plussed as you are.
Still...it happens to everyone eventually. Maybe it was airplane ears that weren't adjusted yet? That always kills my ears.
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guy on the board needed this.
BluegrassForum.com • View topic - Musical Note to Frequency chart
guy on the board needed this.
BluegrassForum.com • View topic - Musical Note to Frequency chart
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That was my whole point.
I like the way she and the band handled it. Very professional-not freaking out-no yelling-no blaming and making it as though it was part of the song.
I bet the majority of the audience was not even aware of what was going on. THAT is the mark of a professional
That was my whole point.
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It's not always something you could just pull out on the GEQ. Regardless of the type of console, it took a bit long for that.
I'm betting it was a digital effect where it shouldn't have been.
It's not always something you could just pull out on the GEQ. Regardless of the type of console, it took a bit long for that.
I'm betting it was a digital effect where it shouldn't have been.
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There's a pack of the back of her dress with a cable going to the back of her head.
I suppose it might be something else...
Chris
There's a pack of the back of her dress with a cable going to the back of her head.
I suppose it might be something else...
Chris
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Thank you for that, David.
Thank you for that, David.
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I was referring to the comment about wedge volume. She is clearly wearing one earpiece.
I was referring to the comment about wedge volume. She is clearly wearing one earpiece.
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My mistake, sorry.
There's a bit about the monitor setup here but nothing much.
FOH online | Mixing for Joss Stone: Great Artist + No Drama = Paradiso
Chris
My mistake, sorry.
There's a bit about the monitor setup here but nothing much.
FOH online | Mixing for Joss Stone: Great Artist + No Drama = Paradiso
Chris
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Regardless of what console was in use, if the monitor console was set up post fader you should pull the vocal fader down a few db, find the frequency and cut it, put the fader back to unity. I highly doubt that someone on a gig that large would be slower on a digital desk than an analog desk.
Regardless of what console was in use, if the monitor console was set up post fader you should pull the vocal fader down a few db, find the frequency and cut it, put the fader back to unity. I highly doubt that someone on a gig that large would be slower on a digital desk than an analog desk.
How do you know it was her mic feeding back?
I wouldn't suspect it feeding back in her primary wedges, maybe the sidefills... (judging by the video clip)
What I would suspect (since the rest of the band is on wedges), and this happened on an intro to a song, is that an acoustic instrument was unmuted when it shouldn't have been, and started resonating.
I just finished an acoustic tour leg where 90% of the time, it was the dobro feeding back in it's wedge due to incorrect pedal presses (the player kept the dobro inches away from the wedge, compared to his playing position a few feet away). A gate works well until the rest of the band starts playing, then it opens up and starts the whole feedback process. And hacking that much lo mid out of the strip made it sound too thin to the artists and myself.
The other 9% was FOH related (proximity to speaker stacks with very resonant instruments).
The last 1% was zingers off of background vocal mics due to temperature and humidity changes throughout the show, or in some cases, the stage ceiling geometry.
BRad
I wouldn't suspect it feeding back in her primary wedges, maybe the sidefills... (judging by the video clip)
What I would suspect (since the rest of the band is on wedges), and this happened on an intro to a song, is that an acoustic instrument was unmuted when it shouldn't have been, and started resonating.
I just finished an acoustic tour leg where 90% of the time, it was the dobro feeding back in it's wedge due to incorrect pedal presses (the player kept the dobro inches away from the wedge, compared to his playing position a few feet away). A gate works well until the rest of the band starts playing, then it opens up and starts the whole feedback process. And hacking that much lo mid out of the strip made it sound too thin to the artists and myself.
The other 9% was FOH related (proximity to speaker stacks with very resonant instruments).
The last 1% was zingers off of background vocal mics due to temperature and humidity changes throughout the show, or in some cases, the stage ceiling geometry.
BRad