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<blockquote data-quote="TJ Cornish" data-source="post: 30970" data-attributes="member: 162"><p>Re: Chrysler paid....</p><p></p><p></p><p>I submit that statements like this are part of the class warfare too. Whenever I am critical of the Kyoto treaty or other radical lifestyle-threatening environmental proposals, I usually get accused of "liking pollution". I've just started admitting to stepping on kitties and puppies - it saves time, since no one ever stops to listen to what I have to say anyway.</p><p></p><p>I started my first response saying that I wish for a world where no one has to work at all. My wishing for that to happen hasn't made it come true, nor have unions, government bailouts, and protectionism been able to stop the effects of globalization, though many people wish it can/will. I don't like some of the consequences of globalization - certainly I want everyone to earn a more than livable wage. The problem is that the consumers of goods (us), even those who are proponents of those things shop at Walmart and refuse to pay more than $10 for a shirt, necessitating that the shirt either come from a foreign place with lower wages, or forcing US companies to compete in some fashion to be able to sell a shirt for $10. By in large US companies can't/haven't competed, which is why 99% of textiles are imported.</p><p></p><p>That's a common rallying cry, but it's not true. There are certainly ways to shelter some income (whether there should be or not depends on a person's view of the desirability of the government affecting behavior such as charitable giving or home ownership), but the "rich" and the "ultra rich" pay, depending on one's definitions of these arbitrary terms, 70% - 95% of all income taxes.</p><p></p><p>My moral outrage is due to the attitudes of entitlement that some folks have in the country (I'm not meaning you in this statement Hammer) and the shortsightedness of unending desire for more programs and "reality modifications" paid for by the transfer of wealth from "those other guys". In my opinion, this is not the American spirit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJ Cornish, post: 30970, member: 162"] Re: Chrysler paid.... I submit that statements like this are part of the class warfare too. Whenever I am critical of the Kyoto treaty or other radical lifestyle-threatening environmental proposals, I usually get accused of "liking pollution". I've just started admitting to stepping on kitties and puppies - it saves time, since no one ever stops to listen to what I have to say anyway. I started my first response saying that I wish for a world where no one has to work at all. My wishing for that to happen hasn't made it come true, nor have unions, government bailouts, and protectionism been able to stop the effects of globalization, though many people wish it can/will. I don't like some of the consequences of globalization - certainly I want everyone to earn a more than livable wage. The problem is that the consumers of goods (us), even those who are proponents of those things shop at Walmart and refuse to pay more than $10 for a shirt, necessitating that the shirt either come from a foreign place with lower wages, or forcing US companies to compete in some fashion to be able to sell a shirt for $10. By in large US companies can't/haven't competed, which is why 99% of textiles are imported. That's a common rallying cry, but it's not true. There are certainly ways to shelter some income (whether there should be or not depends on a person's view of the desirability of the government affecting behavior such as charitable giving or home ownership), but the "rich" and the "ultra rich" pay, depending on one's definitions of these arbitrary terms, 70% - 95% of all income taxes. My moral outrage is due to the attitudes of entitlement that some folks have in the country (I'm not meaning you in this statement Hammer) and the shortsightedness of unending desire for more programs and "reality modifications" paid for by the transfer of wealth from "those other guys". In my opinion, this is not the American spirit. [/QUOTE]
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