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Danley SM80 and others shootout Monday January 14 at Danley in Gainesville, GA.
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<blockquote data-quote="Brandon Wright" data-source="post: 75565" data-attributes="member: 2317"><p>Re: Danley SM80 and others shootout Monday January 14 at Danley in Gainesville, GA.</p><p></p><p>I would just like to thank Ivan and the Danley guys once more for their hospitality. I'm very glad I made the drive, as it really provided some useful perspective. </p><p></p><p>I am still amazed at how big of a turd the sb1000z was compared to the TH212, Th118, and of course the IHOP. The sensitivity difference was huge, and the sb1000 is one of the more sensitive dual 18's. If you set the sub to a comfortable level with one of the Danley offerings and then switched the nl4 to the sb1000, it went away entirely. Not to mention the difference in "impact." </p><p></p><p>As far as my impressions of the tonal qualities of different subs, I will provide my thoughts and see if they jive with Ivan's thoughts on impact as I had to leave kind of early. </p><p></p><p>The TH212 sounded great and was noticeably more efficient than the sb1000. It had a great subjective "impact" that sounded very clean and "full." There is no question that it is an excellent performer, although its form factor is a bit odd for my purposes. I think we did manage to find Xmech when driving it off an fp13000. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />~:-D~:grin:</p><p></p><p>The TH118 was great. It had all sorts of "impact" with more extension than the TH212. At first it seemed that the TH212 had more chest "impact" than the TH118. But then I got to thinking about the discussion about companies low passing at lower frequencies to make the lows seem more prominent. I think in this case the opposite was happening. The "impact" just seemed less prominent due to the presence of the lower extension. I think when I buy some Danley subs for myself I will be going with the TH118. It sounded incredible, is a good balance between output and extension, and its form factor is the most practical for me. </p><p></p><p>Then there was the IHOP. The difference between a regular and tapped horn was readily apparent. Like its name implies (the PC name anyway), it has an incredible clean punch. Whereas, the tapped horns have a little "crunch" to go along with their impact. But just like we discussed yesterday, they sounded different, but I'm not sure which one sounded better. They both have their advantages, and sound better than 99% of other offerings. They comparison was a bit skewed by the IHOP's 2 ohm impedance while everything else was 4 ohm nominal. I feel a better comparison would have been two TH118's to the IHOP. I'll be curious to see what the pricing on the IHOP is. If it is going to be close to in price to two TH118's I'm going to have a tough decision to make. Its 50 x50 dimensions have its advantages and disadvantages for me. </p><p></p><p>The moral of the story being that everything there destroyed the sb1000, which is known quantity to me and I never have any trouble getting resutls out off. But the Danley stuff is just in a another league. I am now a believer. </p><p></p><p>I'm also tired of typing, so I will post my thoughts on the top boxes later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandon Wright, post: 75565, member: 2317"] Re: Danley SM80 and others shootout Monday January 14 at Danley in Gainesville, GA. I would just like to thank Ivan and the Danley guys once more for their hospitality. I'm very glad I made the drive, as it really provided some useful perspective. I am still amazed at how big of a turd the sb1000z was compared to the TH212, Th118, and of course the IHOP. The sensitivity difference was huge, and the sb1000 is one of the more sensitive dual 18's. If you set the sub to a comfortable level with one of the Danley offerings and then switched the nl4 to the sb1000, it went away entirely. Not to mention the difference in "impact." As far as my impressions of the tonal qualities of different subs, I will provide my thoughts and see if they jive with Ivan's thoughts on impact as I had to leave kind of early. The TH212 sounded great and was noticeably more efficient than the sb1000. It had a great subjective "impact" that sounded very clean and "full." There is no question that it is an excellent performer, although its form factor is a bit odd for my purposes. I think we did manage to find Xmech when driving it off an fp13000. :D~:-D~:grin: The TH118 was great. It had all sorts of "impact" with more extension than the TH212. At first it seemed that the TH212 had more chest "impact" than the TH118. But then I got to thinking about the discussion about companies low passing at lower frequencies to make the lows seem more prominent. I think in this case the opposite was happening. The "impact" just seemed less prominent due to the presence of the lower extension. I think when I buy some Danley subs for myself I will be going with the TH118. It sounded incredible, is a good balance between output and extension, and its form factor is the most practical for me. Then there was the IHOP. The difference between a regular and tapped horn was readily apparent. Like its name implies (the PC name anyway), it has an incredible clean punch. Whereas, the tapped horns have a little "crunch" to go along with their impact. But just like we discussed yesterday, they sounded different, but I'm not sure which one sounded better. They both have their advantages, and sound better than 99% of other offerings. They comparison was a bit skewed by the IHOP's 2 ohm impedance while everything else was 4 ohm nominal. I feel a better comparison would have been two TH118's to the IHOP. I'll be curious to see what the pricing on the IHOP is. If it is going to be close to in price to two TH118's I'm going to have a tough decision to make. Its 50 x50 dimensions have its advantages and disadvantages for me. The moral of the story being that everything there destroyed the sb1000, which is known quantity to me and I never have any trouble getting resutls out off. But the Danley stuff is just in a another league. I am now a believer. I'm also tired of typing, so I will post my thoughts on the top boxes later. [/QUOTE]
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