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<blockquote data-quote="John Roberts" data-source="post: 75717" data-attributes="member: 126">Re: Danley SM80 and others shootout Monday January 14 at Danley in Gainesville, GA.I am all too familiar with how unscientific (uncontrolled) listening tests can lead to poorly formed conclusions. Not to put words into your mouth but &quot;punch&quot; is more of a full range phenomenon so while a poorly behaving woofer might hurt &quot;punch&quot; it can not deliver good &quot;punch&quot; all by itself. Listening to a woofer alone playing wider band input signal than it&#039;s target bandpass could easily confuse listeners.I have an old studio sub (huge box but only 12&quot; driver) in my living room, that I recall feeding a sine wave test tone to decades ago just for chuckles, and IIRC I heard output all the way up to around 1kHz. It surely wasn&#039;t flat that high but normalizing paths for simple frequency response is rule one for controlled (fair) listening tests. Note: the trend to put LF bandpasses on their own fader seems contrary to making sure their LF output mates coherently to the full range audio signal.JRPS: Good luck, as you know selling a flat linear path can sometimes require extra educational effort. At least you have a good brand reputation so it shouldn&#039;t be a huge uphill battle.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Roberts, post: 75717, member: 126"] Re: Danley SM80 and others shootout Monday January 14 at Danley in Gainesville, GA. I am all too familiar with how unscientific (uncontrolled) listening tests can lead to poorly formed conclusions. Not to put words into your mouth but "punch" is more of a full range phenomenon so while a poorly behaving woofer might hurt "punch" it can not deliver good "punch" all by itself. Listening to a woofer alone playing wider band input signal than it's target bandpass could easily confuse listeners. I have an old studio sub (huge box but only 12" driver) in my living room, that I recall feeding a sine wave test tone to decades ago just for chuckles, and IIRC I heard output all the way up to around 1kHz. It surely wasn't flat that high but normalizing paths for simple frequency response is rule one for controlled (fair) listening tests. Note: the trend to put LF bandpasses on their own fader seems contrary to making sure their LF output mates coherently to the full range audio signal. JR PS: Good luck, as you know selling a flat linear path can sometimes require extra educational effort. At least you have a good brand reputation so it shouldn't be a huge uphill battle. [/QUOTE]

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