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<blockquote data-quote="Gordon Brinton" data-source="post: 146227" data-attributes="member: 9814">Re: Do guitar players really need guitar in their own stage wedge?My original concern with this thread was, too much sound (instrumentation) in the monitors. I was trying to clean them up for the sake of clarity, but guitar beaming is a problem too.There is not always room for baffles and a dangling cord can easily knock them over.I think I&#039;ve tried just about every remedy for guitar-burn in the audience. Raising or tilting it up tends to send too much guitar directly toward the vocal mic. Cross-firing guitar amps seems to work well, but can cause problems for a vocalist standing center stage. I&#039;ve even seen guitar amps moved in front of the guitarist and tilted up like a floor wedge, but an open-back amp still spews volume into the audience.I once talked a rock band into turning their guitar amps around, facing them toward the rear wall, (including the bass rig). The reflected sound was dispersed nicely and seemed to eliminate all beaming problems. (Even the bass player said that he could hear his own rig better). The guitar&#039;s mid-range and high-end could still be heard and stage volume appeared more under control. It was one of the easiest small club rock shows I had ever mixed because I now had full control of guitar volume in the audience area. As a soundman, I really appreciated the results. But alas, the guitarists didn&#039;t like it for reasons they couldn&#039;t convey. It seems they just didn&#039;t want to let go of conventional methods.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gordon Brinton, post: 146227, member: 9814"] Re: Do guitar players really need guitar in their own stage wedge? My original concern with this thread was, too much sound (instrumentation) in the monitors. I was trying to clean them up for the sake of clarity, but guitar beaming is a problem too. There is not always room for baffles and a dangling cord can easily knock them over. I think I've tried just about every remedy for guitar-burn in the audience. Raising or tilting it up tends to send too much guitar directly toward the vocal mic. Cross-firing guitar amps seems to work well, but can cause problems for a vocalist standing center stage. I've even seen guitar amps moved in front of the guitarist and tilted up like a floor wedge, but an open-back amp still spews volume into the audience. I once talked a rock band into turning their guitar amps around, facing them toward the rear wall, (including the bass rig). The reflected sound was dispersed nicely and seemed to eliminate all beaming problems. (Even the bass player said that he could hear his own rig better). The guitar's mid-range and high-end could still be heard and stage volume appeared more under control. It was one of the easiest small club rock shows I had ever mixed because I now had full control of guitar volume in the audience area. As a soundman, I really appreciated the results. But alas, the guitarists didn't like it for reasons they couldn't convey. It seems they just didn't want to let go of conventional methods. [/QUOTE]

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