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Junior Varsity
I ask you for advice on some speakers.
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<blockquote data-quote="Paul Johnson" data-source="post: 217580" data-attributes="member: 2643"><p>You are very mixed up in your focus here. I have in stock a 12 box JBL VRX system, It has the sort of bass that you feel and is really in your face - for live shows. It does it's job well and earns its keep.</p><p></p><p>However - it is not remotely accurate and revealing. It kicks ar5e. If you want a system that will play almost anything then you need precision, truth, accuracy and frequency extension. </p><p></p><p>I'm also totally confused by your measurements? You listen a 3m but want half a metre between them?</p><p></p><p>You have silly money to spend and realistically, what you want is NOT what hifi systems do. A roaring guitar or a beautiful electric sound makes no sense. You want a system that gives out what is put in, but you want a certain sound, and that is NOT Hifi.</p><p></p><p>Hifi needs carefully tuned acoustics and a minimum speaker separation to give you, with eyes close, a drum kit that is the right size. You need mid field distances to hear stereo properly and even 3m could be considered too close if the room is big? 1m is verging on near field, with all the compromises that closeness gives. It also introduces spatial separation. Your brain can tell the HF and LF drivers are not in the same place.</p><p></p><p>Throwing money at it will not create what you want, because what you want is NOT normal hifi, so the usual products may fail to impress.</p><p></p><p>Despite multiple 18" subs, in my studio the monitors are 8"/1" and there are no subs, just nice sounding speakers. I cannot make my diaphragm thrash with bass, and guitars sound like, well, guitars - good ones and poor ones.</p><p></p><p>With today's better sampling and bit depth, CDs may well be a compromise. The entire system only being as good as the weakest link.</p><p></p><p>You've got an idea in your head, compiled from so many sources the info is contradictory. </p><p></p><p>You could buy a PA that will make your guts wobble and ears bleed, but that is not quality audio I'm afraid. Your budget is frankly silly for anyone who has not spent lots on controlled acoustics in the space. That is equally as important as the equipment. </p><p></p><p>Pro gear is available for short term rental, so why not chat with the local PA company and spend a bit on a hire of a PA with subs so you can see how you like it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paul Johnson, post: 217580, member: 2643"] You are very mixed up in your focus here. I have in stock a 12 box JBL VRX system, It has the sort of bass that you feel and is really in your face - for live shows. It does it's job well and earns its keep. However - it is not remotely accurate and revealing. It kicks ar5e. If you want a system that will play almost anything then you need precision, truth, accuracy and frequency extension. I'm also totally confused by your measurements? You listen a 3m but want half a metre between them? You have silly money to spend and realistically, what you want is NOT what hifi systems do. A roaring guitar or a beautiful electric sound makes no sense. You want a system that gives out what is put in, but you want a certain sound, and that is NOT Hifi. Hifi needs carefully tuned acoustics and a minimum speaker separation to give you, with eyes close, a drum kit that is the right size. You need mid field distances to hear stereo properly and even 3m could be considered too close if the room is big? 1m is verging on near field, with all the compromises that closeness gives. It also introduces spatial separation. Your brain can tell the HF and LF drivers are not in the same place. Throwing money at it will not create what you want, because what you want is NOT normal hifi, so the usual products may fail to impress. Despite multiple 18" subs, in my studio the monitors are 8"/1" and there are no subs, just nice sounding speakers. I cannot make my diaphragm thrash with bass, and guitars sound like, well, guitars - good ones and poor ones. With today's better sampling and bit depth, CDs may well be a compromise. The entire system only being as good as the weakest link. You've got an idea in your head, compiled from so many sources the info is contradictory. You could buy a PA that will make your guts wobble and ears bleed, but that is not quality audio I'm afraid. Your budget is frankly silly for anyone who has not spent lots on controlled acoustics in the space. That is equally as important as the equipment. Pro gear is available for short term rental, so why not chat with the local PA company and spend a bit on a hire of a PA with subs so you can see how you like it. [/QUOTE]
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