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<blockquote data-quote="Ryan Lantzy" data-source="post: 18152" data-attributes="member: 7">Re: iLive Owners/Users - full fledged iPad app is outJust to re-iterate, I totally understand that.&nbsp; Again, the difference with those products is that all their eggs are in one basket so to speak.&nbsp; If Yamaha or Presonus gave away a billion copies of the app, there would be no cost to them other than the development of the app.&nbsp; For the iLive, the surface is not required.&nbsp; There is already a &#039;&#039;free&#039;&#039; solution to mix on an iLive without a surface but it very weak HMI for this purpose.&nbsp; If they gave away the iPad app (a superior interface) it would mostly likely directly affect their sales of additional consoles, yeilding them nothing.&nbsp; I can&#039;t fault them for profiting from the additional flexibility and usability of the iPad app over the desktop software, especially if by giving it away they essentially lose a potential revenue stream.&nbsp; I know exactly what small operators will do with this app.&nbsp; Rather than buy a second surface, they will keep a $500 iPad next to monitor land with a cue wedge or in-ears (Edit: and essentially yeild any profit to Apple).&nbsp; This probably isn&#039;t a Varsity solution, but it will be done none-the-less.&nbsp; I meant to state this before, I totally agree with you on the demo.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ryan Lantzy, post: 18152, member: 7"] Re: iLive Owners/Users - full fledged iPad app is out Just to re-iterate, I totally understand that. Again, the difference with those products is that all their eggs are in one basket so to speak. If Yamaha or Presonus gave away a billion copies of the app, there would be no cost to them other than the development of the app. For the iLive, the surface is not required. There is already a ''free'' solution to mix on an iLive without a surface but it very weak HMI for this purpose. If they gave away the iPad app (a superior interface) it would mostly likely directly affect their sales of additional consoles, yeilding them nothing. I can't fault them for profiting from the additional flexibility and usability of the iPad app over the desktop software, especially if by giving it away they essentially lose a potential revenue stream. I know exactly what small operators will do with this app. Rather than buy a second surface, they will keep a $500 iPad next to monitor land with a cue wedge or in-ears (Edit: and essentially yeild any profit to Apple). This probably isn't a Varsity solution, but it will be done none-the-less. I meant to state this before, I totally agree with you on the demo. [/QUOTE]

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