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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 123416" data-attributes="member: 30">Re: Listening Get TogetherNo I have not heard any of the products so therefore cannot honest say anything-one way or the other.What I find &quot;interesting&quot; is that sometimes people hear something &quot;different&quot; about a product and automatically assume it is &quot;better&quot;-just because it is different.&nbsp; yet in reality it s a fault-but the fact that it is &quot;different&quot; makes it stand out.&nbsp; And some people &quot;hook&quot; onto that.I will say you can find favorable &quot;reviews&quot; for even totally crappy products.&nbsp; It all depends on where the &quot;reference&quot; is or what the &quot;motive&quot; is.I know it is not fair to judge without actually hearing-but when the basic &quot;rules&quot; of getting a good sound (driver spacing vs wavelength for example) are violated-it makes it hard to believe-or that the designer is paying attention to simple things like freq vs wavelength.But hey-if they are selling product-then good for them.&nbsp; It is just the &quot;BS descriptions&quot; that get me-that have no meaning.&nbsp; Of course the whole hi-fi industry is FULL of such descriptions-maybe that is the idea.Of course the lack of any measurements is also a concern-but that does not seem to bother some manufacturers in our industry who are making the most expensive products-yet have no published data and never will.Oh well.&nbsp; As long as you &quot;trust and believe&quot; why do you need data??????????????????????????????</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 123416, member: 30"] Re: Listening Get Together No I have not heard any of the products so therefore cannot honest say anything-one way or the other. What I find "interesting" is that sometimes people hear something "different" about a product and automatically assume it is "better"-just because it is different. yet in reality it s a fault-but the fact that it is "different" makes it stand out. And some people "hook" onto that. I will say you can find favorable "reviews" for even totally crappy products. It all depends on where the "reference" is or what the "motive" is. I know it is not fair to judge without actually hearing-but when the basic "rules" of getting a good sound (driver spacing vs wavelength for example) are violated-it makes it hard to believe-or that the designer is paying attention to simple things like freq vs wavelength. But hey-if they are selling product-then good for them. It is just the "BS descriptions" that get me-that have no meaning. Of course the whole hi-fi industry is FULL of such descriptions-maybe that is the idea. Of course the lack of any measurements is also a concern-but that does not seem to bother some manufacturers in our industry who are making the most expensive products-yet have no published data and never will. Oh well. As long as you "trust and believe" why do you need data?????????????????????????????? [/QUOTE]

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