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<blockquote data-quote="Glenn Adams" data-source="post: 123424" data-attributes="member: 6611">Re: Listening Get TogetherJohn - Ivan is correct about a great many things. I sold ultra high end stereos in the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s.i could take you into our speaker room and tell you what you are going to hear before you heard them and you would hear that very difference in sound. Psychoacoustic snake oil. I never sold anything I thought sounded horrid, but I could give you reasons to point that Bose to your paneling and say you would hear this tremendous sound stage like you were there, and you would nod and buy it. Bose was our low low end speakers. All I will say about the design is OK it is a quad 8 inch with internal folded horn porting, but if the 2 inches are ripping out of the same area as the ports than I know what it will sound like. And that impression will not change with listening to it.&nbsp; Over the decades of hearing thousands of designs I can look at the design of a box and it&#039;s drivers and tell you about what it will sound like, on and off axis.&nbsp; I don&#039;t need a demo of Ivan&#039;s SBH from Tom to know what it will do and how it will sound. I could buy the SBH speaker or any other unity design without hearing it. There is little that surprises me. Also they shouldn&#039;t&nbsp; worry about those 5 ply cabinets. Most home builders start with CDX, or MDF. If they want to sell a pro that box they better increase the price and buy pro wood.Dream, Saw, Listen, Measure, then Sell</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Glenn Adams, post: 123424, member: 6611"] Re: Listening Get Together John - Ivan is correct about a great many things. I sold ultra high end stereos in the 70's and 80's. i could take you into our speaker room and tell you what you are going to hear before you heard them and you would hear that very difference in sound. Psychoacoustic snake oil. I never sold anything I thought sounded horrid, but I could give you reasons to point that Bose to your paneling and say you would hear this tremendous sound stage like you were there, and you would nod and buy it. Bose was our low low end speakers. All I will say about the design is OK it is a quad 8 inch with internal folded horn porting, but if the 2 inches are ripping out of the same area as the ports than I know what it will sound like. And that impression will not change with listening to it. Over the decades of hearing thousands of designs I can look at the design of a box and it's drivers and tell you about what it will sound like, on and off axis. I don't need a demo of Ivan's SBH from Tom to know what it will do and how it will sound. I could buy the SBH speaker or any other unity design without hearing it. There is little that surprises me. Also they shouldn't worry about those 5 ply cabinets. Most home builders start with CDX, or MDF. If they want to sell a pro that box they better increase the price and buy pro wood. Dream, Saw, Listen, Measure, then Sell [/QUOTE]

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