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<blockquote data-quote="Art Welter" data-source="post: 80599" data-attributes="member: 52">re: Listening Get TogetherLeland,It is very difficult to design an accurate system without good measurements, and very easy to believe that a speaker is subjectively good before you measure them accurately.It appears the Big E team is all about subjectivity, while&nbsp; lacking any objectivity.That is fine for selling to the&nbsp; bass guitar cabinet, home theater, and DJ markets, but professionals prefer measured results demonstrating good frequency, phase and polar response.As far as more numbers, I won&#039;t hold my breath:On&nbsp; 9/13/12 you wrote:&quot;Do I think the instrument cabs are for everyone? No. But here&#039;s a big statement, I think the PA cabs are going to change the industry.&nbsp; You will see data in about 6 weeks.10/25/12&nbsp; And less than 3db drop at 200ft. No doubt bounce from the building and the train affected it. But they do exhibit line array characteristics in a single cab. True line array performance when you stack a pair, throughout most of the frequency range, not just to the length of the line frequency cutoff.Then, 1/22/13: I have a bunch of measurements done, none of which I&#039;m going to publish yet. They&#039;re done with HolmImpulse, a piece of free software. They&#039;re fine for me to reference to each other as I tweak xovers and things, but they certainly are not accurate enough for public consumption.Then, 2/4/13 There are some really unusual things that they do that we have no idea how to quantify in a meaningful way via graphs. The dispersion characteristics are different to say the least.&quot;If you would become familiar with testing, you would understand that all sorts of &quot;really unusual things&quot; can be quantified in a meaningful way via graphs, but don&#039;t expect any of that quantification to show attributes that would be desirable to anyone wanting accurate reproduction.Good luck with your endeavors.Art</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Art Welter, post: 80599, member: 52"] re: Listening Get Together Leland, It is very difficult to design an accurate system without good measurements, and very easy to believe that a speaker is subjectively good before you measure them accurately. It appears the Big E team is all about subjectivity, while lacking any objectivity. That is fine for selling to the bass guitar cabinet, home theater, and DJ markets, but professionals prefer measured results demonstrating good frequency, phase and polar response. As far as more numbers, I won't hold my breath: On 9/13/12 you wrote: "Do I think the instrument cabs are for everyone? No. But here's a big statement, I think the PA cabs are going to change the industry. You will see data in about 6 weeks. 10/25/12 And less than 3db drop at 200ft. No doubt bounce from the building and the train affected it. But they do exhibit line array characteristics in a single cab. True line array performance when you stack a pair, throughout most of the frequency range, not just to the length of the line frequency cutoff. Then, 1/22/13: I have a bunch of measurements done, none of which I'm going to publish yet. They're done with HolmImpulse, a piece of free software. They're fine for me to reference to each other as I tweak xovers and things, but they certainly are not accurate enough for public consumption. Then, 2/4/13 There are some really unusual things that they do that we have no idea how to quantify in a meaningful way via graphs. The dispersion characteristics are different to say the least." If you would become familiar with testing, you would understand that all sorts of "really unusual things" can be quantified in a meaningful way via graphs, but don't expect any of that quantification to show attributes that would be desirable to anyone wanting accurate reproduction. Good luck with your endeavors. Art [/QUOTE]

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