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<blockquote data-quote="Art Welter" data-source="post: 82085" data-attributes="member: 52"><p>Re: Listening Get Together</p><p></p><p></p><p>The measurements?</p><p>Perhaps they gave up on them when they realized how bad they look.</p><p></p><p>Post #40 Leland Crooks posted as he said a "curve I trust" of a 2x5" with tweeter. </p><p>I asked in post #40 what is it was he found "nice" about a studio monitor that is 15 dB down at 1000 Hz compared to 10,000 Hz, later he realized he had made an error designing the crossover.</p><p>He has not posted the revised design frequency plot, saying it is wet so he does not want to test outside.</p><p></p><p>In post # 256 I reproduced the only frequency response curve found on BigE's website, the Lil'E 21, a sub that was measured with a 36 volt input, showing about an 8 dB dip in response at 70 Hz.</p><p></p><p>Leland Crooks and Hart Designs Etc. are "licensed manufacturers of BigE's Manipulated Vortex Waveguidetm cabinets". They appear to be the only posters here who have heard the cabinets.</p><p></p><p>As Leland says in post #280:</p><p>"According to the phase plots, these cabs should sound awful. Incredibly awful.</p><p>When I first saw into a box even after hearing them I still called bullshit."</p><p>I know it seems like we don't know what we're doing. Countless hours on the phone and via emails working through the effects, trying to quantify what is going on in terms of accepted theory."</p><p></p><p>Leland and company seem to prefer spending countless hours talking about "effects" rather than interpreting phase and frequency measurements that could show us what actually is going on with the cabinets they build.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Art Welter, post: 82085, member: 52"] Re: Listening Get Together The measurements? Perhaps they gave up on them when they realized how bad they look. Post #40 Leland Crooks posted as he said a "curve I trust" of a 2x5" with tweeter. I asked in post #40 what is it was he found "nice" about a studio monitor that is 15 dB down at 1000 Hz compared to 10,000 Hz, later he realized he had made an error designing the crossover. He has not posted the revised design frequency plot, saying it is wet so he does not want to test outside. In post # 256 I reproduced the only frequency response curve found on BigE's website, the Lil'E 21, a sub that was measured with a 36 volt input, showing about an 8 dB dip in response at 70 Hz. Leland Crooks and Hart Designs Etc. are "licensed manufacturers of BigE's Manipulated Vortex Waveguidetm cabinets". They appear to be the only posters here who have heard the cabinets. As Leland says in post #280: "According to the phase plots, these cabs should sound awful. Incredibly awful. When I first saw into a box even after hearing them I still called bullshit." I know it seems like we don't know what we're doing. Countless hours on the phone and via emails working through the effects, trying to quantify what is going on in terms of accepted theory." Leland and company seem to prefer spending countless hours talking about "effects" rather than interpreting phase and frequency measurements that could show us what actually is going on with the cabinets they build. [/QUOTE]
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