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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 64319" data-attributes="member: 30">Re: Makes you wonder?Don&#039;t you realize that lyin arrays fix EVERYTHING!&nbsp; They are the correct choice for EVERY sound job.Or so it seems these days <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />I have run across some very interesting &quot;thought processes&quot; in churches over the years.You were trying to help out a small church by fixing the problems they had.&nbsp; That was probably the correct approach.HOWEVER-it is interesting that they did not ask you to bid on a new system.&nbsp; It could be that they were more &quot;comfortable&quot; with spending a lot more money on something &quot;new&quot;.Think of it ths way.&nbsp; You are a car mechanic and tell the customer you can fix up their old car and get it&nbsp; running good.&nbsp; But the customer decides tehy want a NEW car.&nbsp; So where would&nbsp; you buy a new car from?&nbsp; A dealership or the mechanic who fixes cars?While I realize that is not exactly the same case heras installers both sell new systems and repair exisitng ones-the mentality on the customers part is often not that way. When you offered to fix the old system-you were &quot;lowered&quot; to a &quot;repairman&quot; status.&nbsp; Not a shiny&nbsp; NEW CAR salesman.I&#039;ve seen it happen many times before.We have had a number of churches who did not have much money-so we gave them a decent system for the money.&nbsp; Then did little upgrades and such over the years as they grew.&nbsp; Then all of a sudden they decide to build a REAL building.&nbsp; ANd they do not even call the company who they have relied on all the years.WHY? Their thought is that they need a &quot;bigger company&quot; to deal with the &quot;real&quot; room.&nbsp;&nbsp; Not a company that works with smaller churches.&nbsp; EVEN THOUGH that same company does larger jobs well also-there is a &quot;perceeived notion&quot; that companies that only work in larger spaces are &quot;better&quot;.&nbsp; And then when the finally get in the new space-they realize that the old system they had was actually better-even though the new system is &quot;shiny and new with lots of flashing lights&quot;.&nbsp; Oh well------------------------------------------Just like the church that will hire a company from out of town-because they feel that nobody who is local could be any good.WHat is the definiton of an expert?&nbsp; Somebody who lives at least 100 miles away.&nbsp; And if you have to get ona&nbsp; plane to get to the job-you REALLY know what you are doing.I know 2 consultants that live about 150 miles apart.&nbsp; Each one does a lot more work in the OTHERS area than they do their own.&nbsp; WHY? Because they are not &quot;local&quot; to the other area.We have a local &quot;arts&quot; person who will pay more for stage hands that have to come up from (the big city) Atlanta.&nbsp; Somehow &quot;thinking&quot; that because they live in Atlanta-they are &quot;better&quot;.A strange business we are in.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 64319, member: 30"] Re: Makes you wonder? Don't you realize that lyin arrays fix EVERYTHING! They are the correct choice for EVERY sound job. Or so it seems these days :( I have run across some very interesting "thought processes" in churches over the years. You were trying to help out a small church by fixing the problems they had. That was probably the correct approach. HOWEVER-it is interesting that they did not ask you to bid on a new system. It could be that they were more "comfortable" with spending a lot more money on something "new". Think of it ths way. You are a car mechanic and tell the customer you can fix up their old car and get it running good. But the customer decides tehy want a NEW car. So where would you buy a new car from? A dealership or the mechanic who fixes cars? While I realize that is not exactly the same case heras installers both sell new systems and repair exisitng ones-the mentality on the customers part is often not that way. When you offered to fix the old system-you were "lowered" to a "repairman" status. Not a shiny NEW CAR salesman. I've seen it happen many times before. We have had a number of churches who did not have much money-so we gave them a decent system for the money. Then did little upgrades and such over the years as they grew. Then all of a sudden they decide to build a REAL building. ANd they do not even call the company who they have relied on all the years. WHY? Their thought is that they need a "bigger company" to deal with the "real" room. Not a company that works with smaller churches. EVEN THOUGH that same company does larger jobs well also-there is a "perceeived notion" that companies that only work in larger spaces are "better". And then when the finally get in the new space-they realize that the old system they had was actually better-even though the new system is "shiny and new with lots of flashing lights". Oh well------------------------------------------ Just like the church that will hire a company from out of town-because they feel that nobody who is local could be any good. WHat is the definiton of an expert? Somebody who lives at least 100 miles away. And if you have to get ona plane to get to the job-you REALLY know what you are doing. I know 2 consultants that live about 150 miles apart. Each one does a lot more work in the OTHERS area than they do their own. WHY? Because they are not "local" to the other area. We have a local "arts" person who will pay more for stage hands that have to come up from (the big city) Atlanta. Somehow "thinking" that because they live in Atlanta-they are "better". A strange business we are in. [/QUOTE]

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