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<blockquote data-quote="Brad Weber" data-source="post: 64336" data-attributes="member: 114">Re: Makes you wonder?Some years ago, within a short time period I encountered two projects where after looking at the existing systems we found that the problem was not so much the equipment itself as much as how it was applied and proposed to first optimize what they had.&nbsp; In one case my contact was the venue Manager and they were very happy to have someone provide a solution instead of just selling them more stuff.&nbsp; On the other project my contact was the venue head tech and they did not like being told they did not need the shiny new toys they wanted, much less that they weren&#039;t using what they had effectively, and not only did we never heard from them again but they made derogatory comments about us to their bosses so that they would not talk to us.&nbsp; The difference had a lot to do with who we were talking to and their motives and goals.I also think that some people believe that getting a bunch of new hardware will be perceived as having gotten something for their money even if the value received is minimal.&nbsp; People also often hear with their eyes, that big honkin&#039; line array must sound good while I had a church that was upset because while the members could hear everything just fine after a system upgrade where we went to great lengths to blend speakers into the architecture, the members apparently complained that they didn&#039;t hear or see where all the money had gone so we were asked to adjust the system so that they could &quot;hear&quot; the system and know where the money had gone rather than it sounding natural.Finally, I have found that if I give away advice then some people assume it to have little or no value while if I charge a lot for it then some believe it must have great value.&nbsp; It&#039;s rather interesting how some churches can&#039;t afford any expensive solutions while other churches will discount anything that isn&#039;t expensive.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brad Weber, post: 64336, member: 114"] Re: Makes you wonder? Some years ago, within a short time period I encountered two projects where after looking at the existing systems we found that the problem was not so much the equipment itself as much as how it was applied and proposed to first optimize what they had. In one case my contact was the venue Manager and they were very happy to have someone provide a solution instead of just selling them more stuff. On the other project my contact was the venue head tech and they did not like being told they did not need the shiny new toys they wanted, much less that they weren't using what they had effectively, and not only did we never heard from them again but they made derogatory comments about us to their bosses so that they would not talk to us. The difference had a lot to do with who we were talking to and their motives and goals. I also think that some people believe that getting a bunch of new hardware will be perceived as having gotten something for their money even if the value received is minimal. People also often hear with their eyes, that big honkin' line array must sound good while I had a church that was upset because while the members could hear everything just fine after a system upgrade where we went to great lengths to blend speakers into the architecture, the members apparently complained that they didn't hear or see where all the money had gone so we were asked to adjust the system so that they could "hear" the system and know where the money had gone rather than it sounding natural. Finally, I have found that if I give away advice then some people assume it to have little or no value while if I charge a lot for it then some believe it must have great value. It's rather interesting how some churches can't afford any expensive solutions while other churches will discount anything that isn't expensive. [/QUOTE]

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