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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Smith" data-source="post: 19068" data-attributes="member: 93">Re: Need SUB help...Couple things Vinny... you are comparing front loaded subs to horn loaded subs!&nbsp; In my experience, horns typically produce very efficient forward spl&#039;s, compared to omni-directional front loaded boxes.&nbsp; Secondly, horns can have a &quot;different&quot; kind of sound... I find them more &quot;punchy&quot;.&nbsp; They are often more efficient at the higher sub frequencies.I am a HUGE fan of horn loaded subs!&nbsp; They are much more directional, putting more sound forward, than rear-ward, or to the sides.&nbsp; They usually work even better paired (or in groups)... and there is additional spl gains to be had when horns are coupled.&nbsp; Center clustering is usually best when it is an option.Ironically, the LS801P design looks to me like an old-school &quot;scoop&quot;.&nbsp; The old scoops I have will blow away my JBL718&#039;s above 50hz.&nbsp; While your ears are probably telling you the truth, you should consider doing metered SPL comparisons at different sine-wave frequencies.&nbsp; Just be aware of proper testing proceedures to get accurate results. Flickering LED&#039;s really don&#039;t mean much, especially from different amps and brands.&nbsp; Getting voltage readings from a powered box may not be a practical option either.&nbsp; Of course, you can always just go for max output readings.Cheers!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scott Smith, post: 19068, member: 93"] Re: Need SUB help... Couple things Vinny... you are comparing front loaded subs to horn loaded subs! In my experience, horns typically produce very efficient forward spl's, compared to omni-directional front loaded boxes. Secondly, horns can have a "different" kind of sound... I find them more "punchy". They are often more efficient at the higher sub frequencies. I am a HUGE fan of horn loaded subs! They are much more directional, putting more sound forward, than rear-ward, or to the sides. They usually work even better paired (or in groups)... and there is additional spl gains to be had when horns are coupled. Center clustering is usually best when it is an option. Ironically, the LS801P design looks to me like an old-school "scoop". The old scoops I have will blow away my JBL718's above 50hz. While your ears are probably telling you the truth, you should consider doing metered SPL comparisons at different sine-wave frequencies. Just be aware of proper testing proceedures to get accurate results. Flickering LED's really don't mean much, especially from different amps and brands. Getting voltage readings from a powered box may not be a practical option either. Of course, you can always just go for max output readings. Cheers! [/QUOTE]

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