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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Foster" data-source="post: 140607" data-attributes="member: 9694">Re: New Yamaha TF series digital mixersIndeed it is.&nbsp; It&#039;s all just software at this point.&nbsp; And compared to the other common mixer in this segment, the &quot;20&quot; auxes on the TF is a bigger number than the &quot;16&quot; on the X series.&nbsp; Doesn&#039;t matter if there is really only 14 auxes (8 mono and 6 stereo).&nbsp; If you count the stereo auxes as two auxes each, you can get a bigger number and that makes it look better at a glance than the competitor.&nbsp; That&#039;s all this is really about anyway....just trying to look better than your competitor.That said, IEM&#039;s are getting way more popular with bands anyway, so setting it up with a number of stereo auxes for IEMs is another great marketing way to make it look better.Though I don&#039;t know if they will ever change the aux config with a later firmware update.&nbsp; The sends on faders buttons on the right side are labeled as 1-8 and 9/10 - 19/20.&nbsp; Seems like the screen printing pretty much says they&#039;re never going to unlink those stereo auxes to give us 20 mono auxes.&nbsp; Besides, that would definitely start cutting into their sales of QL and CL consoles.&nbsp; Heck, even the Avid D-Show that I run at church only has 16 mono auxes.In all honesty, I&#039;m surprised that they give the flexibility in the first 8 auxes to allow them to be run either mono or linked into stereo pairs.&nbsp; Since this console is aimed at the novice market, I would have thought that they would have limited it one way or the other to avoid confusion.&nbsp; I&#039;m continually surprised at how well this console works for veterans while still having the options to make it easy for novices. Though there are still a few advanced features that I do miss...1. no snapshot crossfade2. unable to route the stereo inputs (and EFX returns) to the sub bus.&nbsp; They pretty much set up the sub bus to function as an aux fed sub without tying up one of the 14 auxes, but then left the stereo inputs and EFX returns out of the routing screen to that bus.3. I wish Aux masters could be assigned to DCAs4. The options available on the UDKs are a bit limited.&nbsp; Let me assign a specific aux send level to the user defined knob.&nbsp; Let me use a user defined key/button to bring a specific channel&#039;s overview to the screen.&nbsp; As it is, the knobs pretty much just do the Gain, EQ, or Dynamics parameters, the buttons are pretty much for snapshot control.&nbsp; They have other, less useful functions too, but seem pretty limited for the really useful functions.&nbsp; Again, I&#039;m sure this was a marketing decision so as to not overload a novice user with options they wouldn&#039;t understand.Still, for the price, this is a fantastic little mixer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeff Foster, post: 140607, member: 9694"] Re: New Yamaha TF series digital mixers Indeed it is. It's all just software at this point. And compared to the other common mixer in this segment, the "20" auxes on the TF is a bigger number than the "16" on the X series. Doesn't matter if there is really only 14 auxes (8 mono and 6 stereo). If you count the stereo auxes as two auxes each, you can get a bigger number and that makes it look better at a glance than the competitor. That's all this is really about anyway....just trying to look better than your competitor. That said, IEM's are getting way more popular with bands anyway, so setting it up with a number of stereo auxes for IEMs is another great marketing way to make it look better. Though I don't know if they will ever change the aux config with a later firmware update. The sends on faders buttons on the right side are labeled as 1-8 and 9/10 - 19/20. Seems like the screen printing pretty much says they're never going to unlink those stereo auxes to give us 20 mono auxes. Besides, that would definitely start cutting into their sales of QL and CL consoles. Heck, even the Avid D-Show that I run at church only has 16 mono auxes. In all honesty, I'm surprised that they give the flexibility in the first 8 auxes to allow them to be run either mono or linked into stereo pairs. Since this console is aimed at the novice market, I would have thought that they would have limited it one way or the other to avoid confusion. I'm continually surprised at how well this console works for veterans while still having the options to make it easy for novices. Though there are still a few advanced features that I do miss... 1. no snapshot crossfade 2. unable to route the stereo inputs (and EFX returns) to the sub bus. They pretty much set up the sub bus to function as an aux fed sub without tying up one of the 14 auxes, but then left the stereo inputs and EFX returns out of the routing screen to that bus. 3. I wish Aux masters could be assigned to DCAs 4. The options available on the UDKs are a bit limited. Let me assign a specific aux send level to the user defined knob. Let me use a user defined key/button to bring a specific channel's overview to the screen. As it is, the knobs pretty much just do the Gain, EQ, or Dynamics parameters, the buttons are pretty much for snapshot control. They have other, less useful functions too, but seem pretty limited for the really useful functions. Again, I'm sure this was a marketing decision so as to not overload a novice user with options they wouldn't understand. Still, for the price, this is a fantastic little mixer. [/QUOTE]

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