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<blockquote data-quote="Christian Boche" data-source="post: 91287" data-attributes="member: 1698"><p>Re: Parallel Compression on X32</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This has already be confirmend for V2.0.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What makes the 1176 so special is, that even with very fast attack times, the transients of the original signal will not be completly squashed, when hitting them hard with the 1176. The SSL Bus Compressor is quite similar in this behavior, but has a different kind of sound. I you have trouble to mimic this special sound with the X32 desk compressor, you basically have three options.</p><p></p><p>1. Use the XFU card and a VST host (dosen't have to be Waves Multirack, LiveProfessor is cheaper and imho better). Hook up the system like this--></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEdw5KnFIH0" target="_blank">X32 Live! Webinar: X32 with Waves Multirack - YouTube</a></p><p>Route your Drums to the L/R Mains AND a subgroup. Dail in your favourite 1176, SSL Buscompressor into a drum subgroup and blend it to your taste with the unprocessed signals. Be aware, that ALL drum channels have to go to your VST host to preserve phase coherency. </p><p>2. Run your compressor plugins like this--></p><p><a href="http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/4393-x32-discussion-307.html#post57282" target="_blank">http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/4393-x32-discussion-307.html#post57282</a></p><p></p><p>3. Build a SSL Bus Compressor on your own, and use it as instert on your X32 drum subgroup! I will try that in a couple of days with my X32 and I will report, if it works<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /> Using the Aux in/outs as analog inserts adds 0.8ms latency...so I might have to dail in a channel delay of 0.8ms to the drum channels. Didn't think any futher about that by now, but some weeks ago, I used one SSL hardware Clone at a gig and it really rocked. It is the unit on top--></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]152407[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Here is how to build one on your own--></p><p><a href="http://www.gyraf.dk/gy_pd/ssl/ssl.htm" target="_blank">SSL Clone construction page</a></p><p>This is the same unit, that I used during the gig.</p><p></p><p>I know, everybody have its own way to use compressors, but this is what works for me:</p><p></p><p>1. Don't send cymbals into the 1176, just the drums. Overheads and cymbals do not sound so good in a live enviroment with parallel compression. In addition you will pump up the overspill from other intruments on stage. In a studio this is a different thing.</p><p>2. If you don't want to spent serious money on an expensive 1176 plugin, try the "Camel Crusher"!--></p><p><a href="http://www.camelaudio.com/camelcrusher.php" target="_blank">CamelCrusher - Free VST/Audio Unit/RTAS Plugin - Distortion, Compressor, Filter</a></p><p>Set it up like this:</p><p>"Filter" section: OFF!</p><p>"Phat Mode": OFF!</p><p>Tube Distortion: OFF!</p><p>Mech Distortion: 1 or 2%!</p><p>Compressor amount and Master section: Like on the picture on the camelaudio page</p><p>Thank me later;-)</p><p></p><p>Happy tweaking</p><p>Christian</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Christian Boche, post: 91287, member: 1698"] Re: Parallel Compression on X32 This has already be confirmend for V2.0. What makes the 1176 so special is, that even with very fast attack times, the transients of the original signal will not be completly squashed, when hitting them hard with the 1176. The SSL Bus Compressor is quite similar in this behavior, but has a different kind of sound. I you have trouble to mimic this special sound with the X32 desk compressor, you basically have three options. 1. Use the XFU card and a VST host (dosen't have to be Waves Multirack, LiveProfessor is cheaper and imho better). Hook up the system like this--> [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEdw5KnFIH0"]X32 Live! Webinar: X32 with Waves Multirack - YouTube[/URL] Route your Drums to the L/R Mains AND a subgroup. Dail in your favourite 1176, SSL Buscompressor into a drum subgroup and blend it to your taste with the unprocessed signals. Be aware, that ALL drum channels have to go to your VST host to preserve phase coherency. 2. Run your compressor plugins like this--> [URL]http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/4393-x32-discussion-307.html#post57282[/URL] 3. Build a SSL Bus Compressor on your own, and use it as instert on your X32 drum subgroup! I will try that in a couple of days with my X32 and I will report, if it works:-) Using the Aux in/outs as analog inserts adds 0.8ms latency...so I might have to dail in a channel delay of 0.8ms to the drum channels. Didn't think any futher about that by now, but some weeks ago, I used one SSL hardware Clone at a gig and it really rocked. It is the unit on top--> [ATTACH=CONFIG]152407.vB5-legacyid=7019[/ATTACH] Here is how to build one on your own--> [URL="http://www.gyraf.dk/gy_pd/ssl/ssl.htm"]SSL Clone construction page[/URL] This is the same unit, that I used during the gig. I know, everybody have its own way to use compressors, but this is what works for me: 1. Don't send cymbals into the 1176, just the drums. Overheads and cymbals do not sound so good in a live enviroment with parallel compression. In addition you will pump up the overspill from other intruments on stage. In a studio this is a different thing. 2. If you don't want to spent serious money on an expensive 1176 plugin, try the "Camel Crusher"!--> [URL="http://www.camelaudio.com/camelcrusher.php"]CamelCrusher - Free VST/Audio Unit/RTAS Plugin - Distortion, Compressor, Filter[/URL] Set it up like this: "Filter" section: OFF! "Phat Mode": OFF! Tube Distortion: OFF! Mech Distortion: 1 or 2%! Compressor amount and Master section: Like on the picture on the camelaudio page Thank me later;-) Happy tweaking Christian [/QUOTE]
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