So I'm Going To Mix My First Live Band This Weekend With The X32 & I'm Looking For...

thanks!

as somewhat of a novice, advice like this is invaluable information on how to actually set up this unit...

Look , some of us have been working for years on analog boards that have 16-24 ins, 4 outs, 2-4 auxs, and two fx sends / returns, and even some boards with no mutes... I even did a gig awhile back on a board that had rotary knobs instead of sliding faders...:lol:
 
Re: thanks!

as somewhat of a novice, advice like this is invaluable information on how to actually set up this unit...

Look , some of us have been working for years on analog boards that have 16-24 ins, 4 outs, 2-4 auxs, and two fx sends / returns, and even some boards with no mutes... I even did a gig awhile back on a board that had rotary knobs instead of sliding faders...:lol:

I learned "digital" on a Yamaha 01v (the original silver face model). It has 12 mic inputs, 2 FX, 4 auxes with outputs and L/R. I'd been an analog guy for 30 years.

The $400 spent on that 01v was tuition at DigitalSkool. I set the mixer on my desk, opened a Dr. Pepper and started plugging things in. I pushed buttons, turned knobs and otherwise did stuff until it quit making sound. Oops. Back to Scene Memory, recall the first preset and was back to factory config. Then I opened the manual, figured out what my level of ignorance was and started practicing all over again.

Then I put it back in the case and put it out in the shop mixer pile. It sat there for about a year. Finally disgusted with myself, I took it to youth conference with the mindset that I was using this... thing... unless my ignorance was a show-stopper. I had an analog FOH rig in the van, but my goal was to leave it there.

What I learned from both the office time and first gig: setting up a highly configurable digital mixer is a lot like setting up an extensive analog FOH rig for the very first time. Nothing is patched, none of the "cool stuff" is programmed, and you can't assume that an inserted device is active (did I push the "IN" button?). In many respects it's intimidating because, even in analog, that level of setup is something we only do once or twice, or it's something that has evolved over use. The next thing I learned is that if I have inputs that span layers, I need to give some advance thought about where I want my inputs patched (or become acquainted with the mixer soft-patch capability). The final thing was that I needed to accept that I wasn't as fast on the new mixer and that familiarity would eventually happen.

Other than those things, mixing itself turned out to be much the same. The hardest thing to do is EQ with your ears and not your eyes. Trust me.

So when you look at a new digital mixer I suggest you download whatever off-line software the manufacturer has. Use that to examine features, build soft patches and routing, etc. and familiarize yourself with whatever features are included in the off-line editors. When in front of the mixer, remember this: "it's in here, somewhere." Take your time, be methodical and you'll find what you're looking for.

Have fun, good luck.

Tim Mc
 
Re: thanks!

I learned "digital" on a Yamaha 01v (the original silver face model). It has 12 mic inputs, 2 FX, 4 auxes with outputs and L/R. I'd been an analog guy for 30 years.

The $400 spent on that 01v was tuition at DigitalSkool. I set the mixer on my desk, opened a Dr. Pepper and started plugging things in. I pushed buttons, turned knobs and otherwise did stuff until it quit making sound. Oops. Back to Scene Memory, recall the first preset and was back to factory config. Then I opened the manual, figured out what my level of ignorance was and started practicing all over again.

Then I put it back in the case and put it out in the shop mixer pile. It sat there for about a year. Finally disgusted with myself, I took it to youth conference with the mindset that I was using this... thing... unless my ignorance was a show-stopper. I had an analog FOH rig in the van, but my goal was to leave it there.

What I learned from both the office time and first gig: setting up a highly configurable digital mixer is a lot like setting up an extensive analog FOH rig for the very first time. Nothing is patched, none of the "cool stuff" is programmed, and you can't assume that an inserted device is active (did I push the "IN" button?). In many respects it's intimidating because, even in analog, that level of setup is something we only do once or twice, or it's something that has evolved over use. The next thing I learned is that if I have inputs that span layers, I need to give some advance thought about where I want my inputs patched (or become acquainted with the mixer soft-patch capability). The final thing was that I needed to accept that I wasn't as fast on the new mixer and that familiarity would eventually happen.

Other than those things, mixing itself turned out to be much the same. The hardest thing to do is EQ with your ears and not your eyes. Trust me.

So when you look at a new digital mixer I suggest you download whatever off-line software the manufacturer has. Use that to examine features, build soft patches and routing, etc. and familiarize yourself with whatever features are included in the off-line editors. When in front of the mixer, remember this: "it's in here, somewhere." Take your time, be methodical and you'll find what you're looking for.

Have fun, good luck.

Tim Mc

That is exactly what I did with the X32. I downloaded the software and got familiar with it long before I ever got my hands on the actual mixer. Even still I had several "ahah" moments once I had a chance to play with the actual mixer.
 
Re: thanks!

I learned "digital" on a Yamaha 01v (the original silver face model). It has 12 mic inputs, 2 FX, 4 auxes with outputs and L/R. I'd been an analog guy for 30 years.

The $400 spent on that 01v was tuition at DigitalSkool. I set the mixer on my desk, opened a Dr. Pepper and started plugging things in. I pushed buttons, turned knobs and otherwise did stuff until it quit making sound. Oops. Back to Scene Memory, recall the first preset and was back to factory config. Then I opened the manual, figured out what my level of ignorance was and started practicing all over again.

Then I put it back in the case and put it out in the shop mixer pile. It sat there for about a year. Finally disgusted with myself, I took it to youth conference with the mindset that I was using this... thing... unless my ignorance was a show-stopper. I had an analog FOH rig in the van, but my goal was to leave it there.

What I learned from both the office time and first gig: setting up a highly configurable digital mixer is a lot like setting up an extensive analog FOH rig for the very first time. Nothing is patched, none of the "cool stuff" is programmed, and you can't assume that an inserted device is active (did I push the "IN" button?). In many respects it's intimidating because, even in analog, that level of setup is something we only do once or twice, or it's something that has evolved over use. The next thing I learned is that if I have inputs that span layers, I need to give some advance thought about where I want my inputs patched (or become acquainted with the mixer soft-patch capability). The final thing was that I needed to accept that I wasn't as fast on the new mixer and that familiarity would eventually happen.

Other than those things, mixing itself turned out to be much the same. The hardest thing to do is EQ with your ears and not your eyes. Trust me.

So when you look at a new digital mixer I suggest you download whatever off-line software the manufacturer has. Use that to examine features, build soft patches and routing, etc. and familiarize yourself with whatever features are included in the off-line editors. When in front of the mixer, remember this: "it's in here, somewhere." Take your time, be methodical and you'll find what you're looking for.

Have fun, good luck.

Tim Mc
Oh, you remind me of when I bought my first digital mixer in the late 90's - The yamaha 02r-v2 with the extra 16-channel analog i/o-cards.

I even made the rookie misstake running the headamps close to clipping before knowing better.... It took me quite a while to learn that console.

Those were the days :-)
 
Re: thanks!

I would suggest that you test the USB memory device before you go to the show.

Not all work with audio products. It all depends on how it was made.... and what brand worked last time, may not be made with the exact same chip technology, etc.

Also, the file format is BAT 32 and there is a limit to 2 Gig in each file. To be safe, I would bring multiple devices, and break up the recording appropriately. The file format is uncompressed WAV files. So, should make editing in software of a DAW of your choice.

When you press the "VIEW" button near the USB port, you can page over to the CONFIG tab. There you can select a source. My suggestion would be to use a pair of Mix Matrix (cies ?sp) as your source. Select Pre, Post EQ, Post Fader, etc. This way you can give it a final EQ, and use Dynamics, etc.

You have an option of the 6 band EQ on a Mix Matrix. You get bands 5 and 6 by selecting Low Mid and the Low Button on the EQ to select the LOW 2 Eq, and the same with the High 2.

Feel free to PM me or ask any questions that you may have.


Dennie Edwards
Specialist, Product Support
MUSIC Group
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