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<blockquote data-quote="Jason Kelly" data-source="post: 49851" data-attributes="member: 278"><p>Re: So we get new Yamaha desks? CL series</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Guys,</p><p></p><p>Please excuse this slightly long reply.</p><p></p><p>I just wanted to step in and correct the comment Scott made about the effects returns of the PRO2. It is possible to send effect returns to the aux buss outputs, the reason this is not enabled by default has nothing to do with avoiding feedback loops. As Scott rightly notes, its possible to create feedback loops at various stages within any console, analogue or digital. But before I explain how to send Aux returns to all the mix busses on one of our consoles I thought I should explain why you can't do it by default. The reason is the way the automatic latency management system built into all our digital consoles works. We take phase coherency in our mixing platform very seriously, as we believe its very important to the sound of our mixing consoles. So the latency management system is required to enable us to control this aspect of the mixing process.</p><p></p><p>Without going into great detail, to keep all the audio phase coherent, the consoles split the processing into 3 basic time zones. Zone1: Input channels, Zone2: Aux sends and returns, Zone3: Matrix & Master outputs. This is so that we can manage the different signal path lengths within the console. In its default setting the Aux returns and the Aux sends are in the same time zone. This is so that the Aux sends and returns are phase coherent with each other and is ideal for FOH mixing, as it still allows you to mix the Aux returns to the masters and matrix outputs post processing. Because we can not perform the (currently) impossible task of time travel its not possible to send processed Aux returns back to the Aux sends within the same time zone. So to enable you to send the Aux returns to Aux sends for monitor mixing (or other) purposes we have to move the Aux return channels into Zone1 of the latency management system. This is done by clicking on the 'input zone' GUI button, which is found at the top of the Aux return channel strip (where the HPF/LPF etc is found). This will then allow you to send processed Aux return inputs to ALL mix busses, which offers you full flexibility in your mixing structure.</p><p></p><p>There are a number of other things I could cover under the latency management banner, but these do not relate to the post on the PRO2's Aux returns. So I will stop here.</p><p></p><p>I hope this hasn't confused the situation, but I felt I had to clarify the statement.</p><p></p><p>Thank you,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jason Kelly, post: 49851, member: 278"] Re: So we get new Yamaha desks? CL series Guys, Please excuse this slightly long reply. I just wanted to step in and correct the comment Scott made about the effects returns of the PRO2. It is possible to send effect returns to the aux buss outputs, the reason this is not enabled by default has nothing to do with avoiding feedback loops. As Scott rightly notes, its possible to create feedback loops at various stages within any console, analogue or digital. But before I explain how to send Aux returns to all the mix busses on one of our consoles I thought I should explain why you can't do it by default. The reason is the way the automatic latency management system built into all our digital consoles works. We take phase coherency in our mixing platform very seriously, as we believe its very important to the sound of our mixing consoles. So the latency management system is required to enable us to control this aspect of the mixing process. Without going into great detail, to keep all the audio phase coherent, the consoles split the processing into 3 basic time zones. Zone1: Input channels, Zone2: Aux sends and returns, Zone3: Matrix & Master outputs. This is so that we can manage the different signal path lengths within the console. In its default setting the Aux returns and the Aux sends are in the same time zone. This is so that the Aux sends and returns are phase coherent with each other and is ideal for FOH mixing, as it still allows you to mix the Aux returns to the masters and matrix outputs post processing. Because we can not perform the (currently) impossible task of time travel its not possible to send processed Aux returns back to the Aux sends within the same time zone. So to enable you to send the Aux returns to Aux sends for monitor mixing (or other) purposes we have to move the Aux return channels into Zone1 of the latency management system. This is done by clicking on the 'input zone' GUI button, which is found at the top of the Aux return channel strip (where the HPF/LPF etc is found). This will then allow you to send processed Aux return inputs to ALL mix busses, which offers you full flexibility in your mixing structure. There are a number of other things I could cover under the latency management banner, but these do not relate to the post on the PRO2's Aux returns. So I will stop here. I hope this hasn't confused the situation, but I felt I had to clarify the statement. Thank you, [/QUOTE]
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