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<blockquote data-quote="Dave Stevens" data-source="post: 19414" data-attributes="member: 142">Re: Speaking of VarsityA couple of random thoughts...Most of the guys out there mixing bands couldn&#039;t mix fucking paint.&nbsp; They don&#039;t understand the art or the technology.&nbsp; I&#039;ve seen it at the biggest of big and the smallest of small.&nbsp; &nbsp; Some of the guys are pristine, real works of art.&nbsp; Most though are tone deaf hacks that are more concerned with a crushing &quot;lead kick&quot; than making sure I can hear the vocal and melody.&nbsp; That is if the band they mix have any sense of vocal or melody.&nbsp; No one ever walks away humming the kick drum.If your act&#039;s agent is shoveling you into B market shitty radio fest gigs you get what you get.&nbsp; If you&#039;re talking about a good radio fest gig (if there is such a thing) like HFFestival or the old K-Rock Weenie Roast, those are real gigs with real rigs though still a pain in the ass.&nbsp; If your band is good and doing the numbers they don&#039;t need to do those shitty gigs unless they need to fill some time between the equally crappy House of Blues gigs.&nbsp; Take your control packages and plug into the stack de jour and it is what it is.&nbsp; Put your big girl panties on and deal with it.&nbsp; If your act is really big time you wouldn&#039;t be doing those shitty gigs.&nbsp; Those gigs are to break an act, not to sustain them.You don&#039;t learn to mix talking about it on forums.&nbsp; You learn by doing it.&nbsp; You can exchange ideas but mixing is the last creative process before the art gets to the audience.&nbsp; What cracks me up is when some posts &quot;this is what I do with the kick, guitar, vocal, whatever without regard to listening to the source.&nbsp; Hows about listening to the motherfucker first?&nbsp; How does it work into the context of the art?&nbsp; How does the artist want the work conveyed?&nbsp;&nbsp; Talking about it without being able to listen to it is pointless.And Justice, Riedel is what you want for matrix com.&nbsp; Just because I have a protractor in my pocket doesn&#039;t mean I can&#039; mix your asses under the table.&nbsp; You need both, you need arts and smarts.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dave Stevens, post: 19414, member: 142"] Re: Speaking of Varsity A couple of random thoughts... Most of the guys out there mixing bands couldn't mix fucking paint. They don't understand the art or the technology. I've seen it at the biggest of big and the smallest of small. Some of the guys are pristine, real works of art. Most though are tone deaf hacks that are more concerned with a crushing "lead kick" than making sure I can hear the vocal and melody. That is if the band they mix have any sense of vocal or melody. No one ever walks away humming the kick drum. If your act's agent is shoveling you into B market shitty radio fest gigs you get what you get. If you're talking about a good radio fest gig (if there is such a thing) like HFFestival or the old K-Rock Weenie Roast, those are real gigs with real rigs though still a pain in the ass. If your band is good and doing the numbers they don't need to do those shitty gigs unless they need to fill some time between the equally crappy House of Blues gigs. Take your control packages and plug into the stack de jour and it is what it is. Put your big girl panties on and deal with it. If your act is really big time you wouldn't be doing those shitty gigs. Those gigs are to break an act, not to sustain them. You don't learn to mix talking about it on forums. You learn by doing it. You can exchange ideas but mixing is the last creative process before the art gets to the audience. What cracks me up is when some posts "this is what I do with the kick, guitar, vocal, whatever without regard to listening to the source. Hows about listening to the motherfucker first? How does it work into the context of the art? How does the artist want the work conveyed? Talking about it without being able to listen to it is pointless. And Justice, Riedel is what you want for matrix com. Just because I have a protractor in my pocket doesn't mean I can' mix your asses under the table. You need both, you need arts and smarts. [/QUOTE]

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