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<blockquote data-quote="Al Walker" data-source="post: 139551" data-attributes="member: 5264"><p>Re: MG and IP theft</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Thanks, but I don’t need to take pictures as I see the consoles every day and I am directly involved in the design of Midas consoles, so given that I have access to the bills of materials, I feel I know rather more than most people about what components we use. Again, I invite you to provide any evidence that any inferior parts have been used which you claim and perhaps you might want to provide pictures and facts. </span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Modern electronic manufacturing is highly automated so the location is irrelevant to quality, which is driven by component selection, quality assurance testing and control of the production process. Historically, Chinese manufacturing was initially attractive because of the lower labour costs, but wages now are close to those of western countries, which has led to the widespread use of automated assembly to remain competitive. Music Group invests heavily in such equipment, including a state-of-the-art $20m manufacturing facility dedicated to digital console production in our existing factory and a $100m investment in our new purpose-built factory.</span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">The reason why so much manufacturing takes place in China is because of the critical density of companies operating here, and the massive (and accelerating) investment in supporting infrastructure that has made the Pearl River Delta region, encompassing Shenzhen, Dongguan, Guangzhou, Zhongshan (where we are located) and Zhuhai, as well as Hong Kong and Macau, the largest concentration of manufacturing in the world. It's fair to describe this region as the manufacturing equivalent of Silicon Valley, and of course many famous companies headquartered there also do their manufacturing here for the same reasons as us. I would urge you to visit this part of the world to see for yourself, and of course you are very welcome to come to see us.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">I would politely ask that you consider the number of high profile users of Midas XL8 and PRO Series digital consoles, people who have the budgets to afford the very best. I won't name-drop here, but you could look on the Internet for who our users are.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">I have personally been through multiple corporate ownerships during my time with Midas, and have an insider's perspective on the reality of the situations we faced, often quite different to how they were perceived externally. Under both the Telex/EVI and Bosch ownerships, we were starved of investment and regularly had recruitment freezes so couldn't even hire people for very critical work - things definitely weren't so good in the 'old days'... </span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">The situation under Music Group is very different as outlined in my previous post, and we are in a much better position today.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000FF"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The Dugan patent has long expired and the design is in the public domain, so yes it is perfectly fine for anyone to use this technology. Please remember that the purpose of a patent is to publish a design for the benefit of all (so that the innovation is not lost to the world when the inventor passes on), with the inventor getting protection for a limited period of time in return for the disclosure of the invention. </span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">I have checked with our German engineering team and the Autocom MDX1000 is not based on a dbx unit. Would you please provide more details?</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Harry, whilst you are entitled to your opinions and I respect your sentiments, I would respectfully invite you to have a discussion based on facts.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Kind regards,</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Al Walker</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Music Group</span></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Al Walker, post: 139551, member: 5264"] Re: MG and IP theft [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Thanks, but I don’t need to take pictures as I see the consoles every day and I am directly involved in the design of Midas consoles, so given that I have access to the bills of materials, I feel I know rather more than most people about what components we use. Again, I invite you to provide any evidence that any inferior parts have been used which you claim and perhaps you might want to provide pictures and facts. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Modern electronic manufacturing is highly automated so the location is irrelevant to quality, which is driven by component selection, quality assurance testing and control of the production process. Historically, Chinese manufacturing was initially attractive because of the lower labour costs, but wages now are close to those of western countries, which has led to the widespread use of automated assembly to remain competitive. Music Group invests heavily in such equipment, including a state-of-the-art $20m manufacturing facility dedicated to digital console production in our existing factory and a $100m investment in our new purpose-built factory.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]The reason why so much manufacturing takes place in China is because of the critical density of companies operating here, and the massive (and accelerating) investment in supporting infrastructure that has made the Pearl River Delta region, encompassing Shenzhen, Dongguan, Guangzhou, Zhongshan (where we are located) and Zhuhai, as well as Hong Kong and Macau, the largest concentration of manufacturing in the world. It's fair to describe this region as the manufacturing equivalent of Silicon Valley, and of course many famous companies headquartered there also do their manufacturing here for the same reasons as us. I would urge you to visit this part of the world to see for yourself, and of course you are very welcome to come to see us.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]I would politely ask that you consider the number of high profile users of Midas XL8 and PRO Series digital consoles, people who have the budgets to afford the very best. I won't name-drop here, but you could look on the Internet for who our users are.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]I have personally been through multiple corporate ownerships during my time with Midas, and have an insider's perspective on the reality of the situations we faced, often quite different to how they were perceived externally. Under both the Telex/EVI and Bosch ownerships, we were starved of investment and regularly had recruitment freezes so couldn't even hire people for very critical work - things definitely weren't so good in the 'old days'... [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]The situation under Music Group is very different as outlined in my previous post, and we are in a much better position today.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000FF][FONT=Verdana]The Dugan patent has long expired and the design is in the public domain, so yes it is perfectly fine for anyone to use this technology. Please remember that the purpose of a patent is to publish a design for the benefit of all (so that the innovation is not lost to the world when the inventor passes on), with the inventor getting protection for a limited period of time in return for the disclosure of the invention. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]I have checked with our German engineering team and the Autocom MDX1000 is not based on a dbx unit. Would you please provide more details?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Harry, whilst you are entitled to your opinions and I respect your sentiments, I would respectfully invite you to have a discussion based on facts.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Kind regards,[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Al Walker[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Music Group[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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