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<blockquote data-quote="John Roberts" data-source="post: 51708" data-attributes="member: 126"><p>Re: The Facebook guy</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is the job of a leader to lead, and when you don't control both houses of the legislature like he did in 2008, you compromise, like Pres. Clinton did with generally good results after he lost both houses. You don't turn "every" single issue into a public referendum to earn political points for the next election. Our government is set up so the lower house (house of representatives) is the more responsive to public opinion, and the senate and executive branch are supposed to rigorously investigate issues and negotiate "informed" solutions between the three of them. Giving public opinion too much weight becomes a glorified lynch mob, which is perfectly democratic, and dangerous. </p><p></p><p>IMO, he squandered his two years of unfettered control forcing unpopular (perhaps unconstitutional) legislation on the public. Even back then with no one in the legislature to stop him, he didn't bother to negotiate and pass a budget (his actual responsibility). Of course since then his budgets keep getting kicked down the road, and have not been resolved since he has held office. </p><p></p><p>FWIW the recent 99-0 senate vote was in response to a republican budget resolution that was "based" on Obama's budget, but the vote result is still notable. This kind of vote from even the democratically controlled senate, makes it difficult to believe the Obama budget ever was a credible attempt. It looks to me like he is just playing politics with our nation's business, but draw your own conclusions. We would like to think that the reports of abusive spending by the GSA is just an isolated agency problem and not a system wide failure to practice budget discipline by the executive branch. </p><p></p><p>We will hear several more months of both sides trying to spin the evidence to make their side look good (actually more to make the other side look bad because voters often vote against candidates for single reasons). Try not to read too much into any one item, but look at the whole picture, and decide for yourself who is best equipped to lead us for the next 4 years. </p><p></p><p>JR</p><p></p><p>PS: I heard a funny (to me) joke about this next election, but I won't post it here since I understand how such political humor is subjective and not only not funny but irritating to those with a different political persuasion (so PM me if you want to laugh or be irritated). We can't engage in thoughtful exchanges when angry at each other so lets try to stick to facts and things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Roberts, post: 51708, member: 126"] Re: The Facebook guy It is the job of a leader to lead, and when you don't control both houses of the legislature like he did in 2008, you compromise, like Pres. Clinton did with generally good results after he lost both houses. You don't turn "every" single issue into a public referendum to earn political points for the next election. Our government is set up so the lower house (house of representatives) is the more responsive to public opinion, and the senate and executive branch are supposed to rigorously investigate issues and negotiate "informed" solutions between the three of them. Giving public opinion too much weight becomes a glorified lynch mob, which is perfectly democratic, and dangerous. IMO, he squandered his two years of unfettered control forcing unpopular (perhaps unconstitutional) legislation on the public. Even back then with no one in the legislature to stop him, he didn't bother to negotiate and pass a budget (his actual responsibility). Of course since then his budgets keep getting kicked down the road, and have not been resolved since he has held office. FWIW the recent 99-0 senate vote was in response to a republican budget resolution that was "based" on Obama's budget, but the vote result is still notable. This kind of vote from even the democratically controlled senate, makes it difficult to believe the Obama budget ever was a credible attempt. It looks to me like he is just playing politics with our nation's business, but draw your own conclusions. We would like to think that the reports of abusive spending by the GSA is just an isolated agency problem and not a system wide failure to practice budget discipline by the executive branch. We will hear several more months of both sides trying to spin the evidence to make their side look good (actually more to make the other side look bad because voters often vote against candidates for single reasons). Try not to read too much into any one item, but look at the whole picture, and decide for yourself who is best equipped to lead us for the next 4 years. JR PS: I heard a funny (to me) joke about this next election, but I won't post it here since I understand how such political humor is subjective and not only not funny but irritating to those with a different political persuasion (so PM me if you want to laugh or be irritated). We can't engage in thoughtful exchanges when angry at each other so lets try to stick to facts and things. [/QUOTE]
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