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<blockquote data-quote="Spenser Hamilton" data-source="post: 82110" data-attributes="member: 2272"><p>Re: Troll thread</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can pretty much echo this. Even after reading all the spats about BFM designs, a guy close to me swore they were the bee's knees, so I decided to take the "try one for yourself challenge". I originally contacted a builder and got quoted an outrageous figure for a T30 (I won't mention dollar amounts in an attempt to be respectful), based on some prior DIY experience I ended up deciding to build my own and see what the results were.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind, Bill's site states specifically "<span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>In fact, a Tuba loaded with a single ten and 100 watts input will out power an eighteen in a traditional cabinet driven by 800 watts!"</strong></span></span></span> My experience would have to disagree, in fact when I compared the T30 to a 718, the 718 was already 1-3 Db ahead of the Tuba at 50v (which many would know is the 'voltage limit' that is specified in this plan) I seem to recall Art was shoving upwards of 80V into a 718 at one point, power compression aside I feel it's pretty safe to say that the 718 is capable of more output. You can also find used 718s for way less than I was quoted for the T30, the value is just not there, the Lab 12 driver is now living happily in one of Art's Lab2x12 designs (which I am thoroughly impressed with).</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think Leland should try to separate himself from that crowd, they don't even seem to keen to give BigE any love around there, Bill put the lid on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spenser Hamilton, post: 82110, member: 2272"] Re: Troll thread I can pretty much echo this. Even after reading all the spats about BFM designs, a guy close to me swore they were the bee's knees, so I decided to take the "try one for yourself challenge". I originally contacted a builder and got quoted an outrageous figure for a T30 (I won't mention dollar amounts in an attempt to be respectful), based on some prior DIY experience I ended up deciding to build my own and see what the results were. Keep in mind, Bill's site states specifically "[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]In fact, a Tuba loaded with a single ten and 100 watts input will out power an eighteen in a traditional cabinet driven by 800 watts!"[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] My experience would have to disagree, in fact when I compared the T30 to a 718, the 718 was already 1-3 Db ahead of the Tuba at 50v (which many would know is the 'voltage limit' that is specified in this plan) I seem to recall Art was shoving upwards of 80V into a 718 at one point, power compression aside I feel it's pretty safe to say that the 718 is capable of more output. You can also find used 718s for way less than I was quoted for the T30, the value is just not there, the Lab 12 driver is now living happily in one of Art's Lab2x12 designs (which I am thoroughly impressed with). Personally, I think Leland should try to separate himself from that crowd, they don't even seem to keen to give BigE any love around there, Bill put the lid on that. [/QUOTE]
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