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Why did I piss off the headline drummer?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Babcock" data-source="post: 97947" data-attributes="member: 46"><p>Re: Why did I piss off the headline drummer?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The secret is that there is no magic secret, just some best practices and experience - I found Bob Gatzen's stuff useful and that's my typical approach. I consider myself pretty reasonable at tuning drums and have been doing it for a long time, but sometimes it just works and sometimes it is more of a fight. There are SOOOOOO many variables!</p><p></p><p>I often find that the room is one of the most significant factors. What sounds great in one space often doesn't work in another. An example of this - some recording studios (such as Ocean Way) have a "drumbrella" - basically a variable height acoustic baffle that they adjust above the drumkit which helps to adjust the resonance of the room to interact best with the tuning of the drums.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8jymtu45kI" target="_blank">- Pensado's Place - ITL # 18 Part 1 - Eric Valentine of BarefootRecording and UnderToneAudio - YouTube</a> - watch at about 2:15 - very cool</p><p></p><p>The point is not that you need a "drumbrella" at every live gig, but that some factors are beyond your control, so you need to tweak the kit at every gig if you really want the best result. Set it and forget it is not a good plan.</p><p></p><p>I also find that many drummers choose muffling and tuning which often does not really work well when mic'd (usually too dead), and doesn't really project well in un-mic'd situations either. It is a really useful exercise to play around with a mic and do a few recordings to note the difference between what you hear and what the mic hears, it can be eye opening for some drummers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff Babcock, post: 97947, member: 46"] Re: Why did I piss off the headline drummer? The secret is that there is no magic secret, just some best practices and experience - I found Bob Gatzen's stuff useful and that's my typical approach. I consider myself pretty reasonable at tuning drums and have been doing it for a long time, but sometimes it just works and sometimes it is more of a fight. There are SOOOOOO many variables! I often find that the room is one of the most significant factors. What sounds great in one space often doesn't work in another. An example of this - some recording studios (such as Ocean Way) have a "drumbrella" - basically a variable height acoustic baffle that they adjust above the drumkit which helps to adjust the resonance of the room to interact best with the tuning of the drums. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8jymtu45kI"]- Pensado's Place - ITL # 18 Part 1 - Eric Valentine of BarefootRecording and UnderToneAudio - YouTube[/URL] - watch at about 2:15 - very cool The point is not that you need a "drumbrella" at every live gig, but that some factors are beyond your control, so you need to tweak the kit at every gig if you really want the best result. Set it and forget it is not a good plan. I also find that many drummers choose muffling and tuning which often does not really work well when mic'd (usually too dead), and doesn't really project well in un-mic'd situations either. It is a really useful exercise to play around with a mic and do a few recordings to note the difference between what you hear and what the mic hears, it can be eye opening for some drummers. [/QUOTE]
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