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<blockquote data-quote="Dan Mortensen" data-source="post: 138502" data-attributes="member: 2826"><p>Re: X-Air</p><p></p><p>I'm a big fan of the megathread idea, where the hive mind focuses intently on a specific subject before getting bored and moving on to another one to focus intently before getting bored, which allows all information about a subject to be found in one place each day. </p><p></p><p>Here are some links to interesting XR-18 topics that are currently under discussion:</p><p></p><p>Series of Behringer videos posted by John DiNicola on the Behringer X Air forum: <a href="http://bit.ly/1w4WnGU" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/1w4WnGU</a></p><p></p><p>Discussion of the inadequacies of the WEP security protocol in the XR-18: </p><p></p><p><a href="http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?6305-XR18-Access-Point-Can-it-have-a-Password-Setting" target="_blank">http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?6305-XR18-Access-Point-Can-it-have-a-Password-Setting</a></p><p></p><p>From TJ Miller on page 3: "<span style="color: #555555">[FONT=lucida_granderegular]If you're going to use the built-in WiFi Access Point on the XR, you might as well not even bother with a WEP password because it's no more secure than no password at all. WEP Cracking apps for Android can crack a WEP password in minutes. Anyone that would be smart enough to figure out how to manipulate traffic to your XR's Access Point on an open network is going to be smart enough to run an app to crack a WEP password."</span></p><p><span style="color: #555555"></span></p><p><span style="color: #555555">[/FONT]</span>http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?6531-Should-I-be-concerned-that-Access-Point-mode-only-has-WEP</p><p></p><p>Also from TJ, page 1: "<span style="color: #555555">[FONT=lucida_granderegular]Most people have this vision of hackers as some clandestine evil folks hiding in shadows trying to wreak havoc and take over the world. That's just not the case for most hackers. [/FONT]</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #555555">[FONT=lucida_granderegular]So what would a "hacker" be doing at your shows? Well most hackers are 18-35 yrs old, hold regular day jobs (some in a security research role) and many are into music as either musicians or DJ's. They like to deconstruct things to see how they work. When they encounter something new that they've not seen before, they dig in and try to discover what it is, how it works and what they can do with it. Just as musicians carry their music in themselves wherever they go, so do hackers carry that curiosity and desire to discover wherever they go (not just hiding out in their basements).[/FONT]</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #555555">[FONT=lucida_granderegular]So when a hacker walks the streets with his happy iPhone or Android phone, most likely he's got a wifi war-walker going. When he goes to a concert or a DJ gig, he's got it going. When he sees an odd open Wifi Network or a Wifi network protected by WEP, well now his curiosity is peaked and he knows he can explore. So when he explores what does he find? A communications protocol that he quickly discovers is controlling the PA. So he starts to play with it. Spoofs packets and begins adjusting mic gain on a channel, changes the routing (possibly even by accident, after all he's just playing trying to figure out what it does), do you see the potential concerns here?[/FONT]</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #555555">[FONT=lucida_granderegular]It doesn't have to be someone who's out to do any harm or specifically targeting you. More than likely it's going to be someone who's armed with some knowledge, finds your Wifi network and decides it looks interesting enough to play with. For those of you that have ever monitored a network firewall or intrusion detection system, you know how often even a small home network receives inquisitive traffic. For those of you know haven't, trust me it happens far more often than most people realize."</span></p><p><span style="color: #555555"></span></p><p><span style="color: #555555"><span style="font-family: 'arial narrow'"><span style="font-size: 12px">As you can see, there is a fair amount of discussion about the so-far bungled intention of the XR designers to have it be a more complete package with no need for an external router. Instead, they have chosen to use an insecure security feature that we hope will be able to be changed to WPA2 in a firmware upgrade.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #555555"><span style="font-family: 'arial narrow'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #555555"><span style="font-family: 'arial narrow'"><span style="font-size: 12px">There is also the beginning of a discussion regarding why some people report that their wifi networks bog down when rooms fill with punters, but it's too early to quote.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #555555"><span style="font-family: 'arial narrow'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #555555"><span style="font-family: 'arial narrow'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Why do you think the causes could be? Since this new mixer is completely controlled either by wifi or a direct Ethernet connection, reliable wireless control is a pretty important subject.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #555555"><span style="font-family: 'arial narrow'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #555555"><span style="font-family: 'arial narrow'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I hope this thread turns does for the X Air series what the X32 thread did for the X32 and its users.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #555555"><span style="font-family: 'arial narrow'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #555555"><span style="font-family: 'arial narrow'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Geez, this post is a mess of fonts.</span></span>[/FONT]</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dan Mortensen, post: 138502, member: 2826"] Re: X-Air I'm a big fan of the megathread idea, where the hive mind focuses intently on a specific subject before getting bored and moving on to another one to focus intently before getting bored, which allows all information about a subject to be found in one place each day. Here are some links to interesting XR-18 topics that are currently under discussion: Series of Behringer videos posted by John DiNicola on the Behringer X Air forum: [URL]http://bit.ly/1w4WnGU[/URL] Discussion of the inadequacies of the WEP security protocol in the XR-18: [URL]http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?6305-XR18-Access-Point-Can-it-have-a-Password-Setting[/URL] From TJ Miller on page 3: "[COLOR=#555555][FONT=lucida_granderegular]If you're going to use the built-in WiFi Access Point on the XR, you might as well not even bother with a WEP password because it's no more secure than no password at all. WEP Cracking apps for Android can crack a WEP password in minutes. Anyone that would be smart enough to figure out how to manipulate traffic to your XR's Access Point on an open network is going to be smart enough to run an app to crack a WEP password." [/FONT][/COLOR]http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?6531-Should-I-be-concerned-that-Access-Point-mode-only-has-WEP Also from TJ, page 1: "[COLOR=#555555][FONT=lucida_granderegular]Most people have this vision of hackers as some clandestine evil folks hiding in shadows trying to wreak havoc and take over the world. That's just not the case for most hackers. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#555555][FONT=lucida_granderegular]So what would a "hacker" be doing at your shows? Well most hackers are 18-35 yrs old, hold regular day jobs (some in a security research role) and many are into music as either musicians or DJ's. They like to deconstruct things to see how they work. When they encounter something new that they've not seen before, they dig in and try to discover what it is, how it works and what they can do with it. Just as musicians carry their music in themselves wherever they go, so do hackers carry that curiosity and desire to discover wherever they go (not just hiding out in their basements).[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#555555][FONT=lucida_granderegular]So when a hacker walks the streets with his happy iPhone or Android phone, most likely he's got a wifi war-walker going. When he goes to a concert or a DJ gig, he's got it going. When he sees an odd open Wifi Network or a Wifi network protected by WEP, well now his curiosity is peaked and he knows he can explore. So when he explores what does he find? A communications protocol that he quickly discovers is controlling the PA. So he starts to play with it. Spoofs packets and begins adjusting mic gain on a channel, changes the routing (possibly even by accident, after all he's just playing trying to figure out what it does), do you see the potential concerns here?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#555555][FONT=lucida_granderegular]It doesn't have to be someone who's out to do any harm or specifically targeting you. More than likely it's going to be someone who's armed with some knowledge, finds your Wifi network and decides it looks interesting enough to play with. For those of you that have ever monitored a network firewall or intrusion detection system, you know how often even a small home network receives inquisitive traffic. For those of you know haven't, trust me it happens far more often than most people realize." [FONT=arial narrow][SIZE=3]As you can see, there is a fair amount of discussion about the so-far bungled intention of the XR designers to have it be a more complete package with no need for an external router. Instead, they have chosen to use an insecure security feature that we hope will be able to be changed to WPA2 in a firmware upgrade. There is also the beginning of a discussion regarding why some people report that their wifi networks bog down when rooms fill with punters, but it's too early to quote. Why do you think the causes could be? Since this new mixer is completely controlled either by wifi or a direct Ethernet connection, reliable wireless control is a pretty important subject. I hope this thread turns does for the X Air series what the X32 thread did for the X32 and its users. Geez, this post is a mess of fonts.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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