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<blockquote data-quote="Tim McCulloch" data-source="post: 100683" data-attributes="member: 67">Analog vs Digital metering, level implications..What Klaus said.He&#039;s the deal:&nbsp; back in Ye Olde Analogue Dayz, there were guys mixing Bands You&#039;ve Heard Of® with all kinds of red lights flashing.&nbsp; Midas made a significant analog impression when doing so on their mixers did not result in disagreeable distortion, but I digress...Think about an analog meter, it pegs out at +4.&nbsp; In the Olde Dayz, we were taught to think that pegging the pointer against the right hand stop was Bad Audio, but when referenced to the actual maximum voltage output of the console, there was probably still around 16dB of headroom.&nbsp; PA systems back then were frequently set up with input sensitivities somewhere between 1.4v and 3v. for &quot;full tilt boogie&quot; so hitting the pointer stop was probably where you were on the edge of the rig&#039;s capabilities.&nbsp; The human tendency to run something until you run out of it still exists, though, so it&#039;s very common to see techs hitting the top of a meter even though it&#039;s bad practice (think &quot;DJ&quot;)... and much, much hotter signal-wise than when done on conventional analog metering.Another factor is what you&#039;re mixing.&nbsp; If you&#039;re doing EDM where tones are continuous, then levels will certainly increase with the number of active inputs.&nbsp; In more common, human-produced music where few inputs contain continuous levels, those levels don&#039;t add as much to the average output signal as you might think.As for what meters show what signals and where in the signal chain it detects those levels... that info should be in the block diagram provided by Behringer (they do provide that, don&#039;t they?).&nbsp; That said, &quot;master&quot; meters are usually post-fader.&nbsp; Meters on individual inputs are typically switchable, but bet on post fader as the default.As for your phone, yes, it&#039;s simply too loud.&nbsp; Is there a problem turning it down?&nbsp; If so, the Aux inputs have a Trim control with +/- 12dB of adjustment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tim McCulloch, post: 100683, member: 67"] Analog vs Digital metering, level implications.. What Klaus said. He's the deal: back in Ye Olde Analogue Dayz, there were guys mixing Bands You've Heard Of® with all kinds of red lights flashing. Midas made a significant analog impression when doing so on their mixers did not result in disagreeable distortion, but I digress... Think about an analog meter, it pegs out at +4. In the Olde Dayz, we were taught to think that pegging the pointer against the right hand stop was Bad Audio, but when referenced to the actual maximum voltage output of the console, there was probably still around 16dB of headroom. PA systems back then were frequently set up with input sensitivities somewhere between 1.4v and 3v. for "full tilt boogie" so hitting the pointer stop was probably where you were on the edge of the rig's capabilities. The human tendency to run something until you run out of it still exists, though, so it's very common to see techs hitting the top of a meter even though it's bad practice (think "DJ")... and much, much hotter signal-wise than when done on conventional analog metering. Another factor is what you're mixing. If you're doing EDM where tones are continuous, then levels will certainly increase with the number of active inputs. In more common, human-produced music where few inputs contain continuous levels, those levels don't add as much to the average output signal as you might think. As for what meters show what signals and where in the signal chain it detects those levels... that info should be in the block diagram provided by Behringer (they do provide that, don't they?). That said, "master" meters are usually post-fader. Meters on individual inputs are typically switchable, but bet on post fader as the default. As for your phone, yes, it's simply too loud. Is there a problem turning it down? If so, the Aux inputs have a Trim control with +/- 12dB of adjustment. [/QUOTE]

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