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<blockquote data-quote="Rhavin Grobert" data-source="post: 101160" data-attributes="member: 5310"><p>Re: X32 Discussion</p><p></p><p>Hi guys. If this is not the right place to post some feature-requests, please point me to some apropriate thread.</p><p>I just bought an x32 and tested it intensively for a week now. There is much i like, but – that being said – some things i dont like and that i think could be done better:</p><p></p><p> </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I need some way to export/import the whole library to/from computer and to/from USB. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I need a forth type of bus (see explanation below). </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">there should be a way to individualy color the assign-displays. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">inputs shoud be allowed to become directly fed by an output, circumventing DA/AD-conversion. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It would give 7 additional color-codes if the displays could be individually inverted (just one additional bit needed!) </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">as summing of signals is done digitally (by software?) - is there any reason why there is no 7th matrix? </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It should be possible to playback PCM-WAV in 24bit and 32bit. And please consider mp3. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">L/R main, matrixes and M/C-Mono busses should be assignable to mute-groups. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">iPhone 4s X32-Q seems to be unable to enter IP-adresses correctly. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The network layer should be able to understand DHCP or APIPA. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">SETUP:Snippets should be editable and exportable to/from pc.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">custom icons, no icon editor, just the posibility to import a well defined format. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I hope - as memory chips got really cheap today - you have'nt limited system memory; so a way to brand the startup by a png of defined size logo below the X32 logo would be a great and easy to implement gimmick. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">some areas (connection from editor, brand logo, library save slots, update) should be configurable for password protection. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">editor should support copy&pase of channel settings and inserting/deleting of channels by moving everything except assigned physical input up/down. Great if you just configured 14 channels and then notice that you just forgot a channel between 5 and 6<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">it should be possible to show a frequency analysis of the selected input channel on screen.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">As S/PDIF on RCA is roughly electrical compatible to RCA-audio - is the A/D-converter resolution good enough to let the software reinterpret the signal as S/PDIF? </li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not shure which part of the signal path is processed by dedicated hardware chips and what is simply software (bloody details welcome ;-] ), DAWs like Cubase etc. show how much can be done solely by software. I have not yet looked inside the box, so here is some guessing involved I think – and as a programmer, this kind of thinking has some experience involved – most of my requests should be fairly easy to implement.</p><p></p><p>== The Forth BusType ==</p><p></p><p>While the other requests should be pretty obvious, the forth type of busses needs some explanation. When doing stereo effects like delay, the delay engine is fed by two busses and their only purpose is to provide often minor differences in amplitude between L and R. So we're using up two faders (we always need just one) and we're using up two busses just for transfering input data that basicaly consists of two times the same sample in different amplitude and that could also be decribed by ONE sample and an additional byte just encoding the panning. So if this is done by software (like in most DAWs), here is my suggestion for a forth bus-type: the PannedMonoBus.</p><p>It could be reasonable implemented like this: The send provides the amplitude (volume), a second-layer controller lets you choose, if you want to get the panning from the master L/R panner or if you want relatively or absolutely set a different panning. This be calculated and transfered in combination with every sample.</p><p>Example, assuming the scale may be -1…0…+1: at a given time, a sample of -0.5/L+2 is fed into the bus from Ch3 and a sample of -0.2/R+3 is fed from Ch4. This could be calculated to a resulting sample with a given resulting panning. So this Bus would be exactly what i named it: a PannedMonoBus. </p><p></p><p>If you still dont know what 'm talking about, just look at you master fader - this is one hardware fader controlling a software stereo-bus. exactly that i would like to have as a forth bus-type, i just suggested a way to lossless compress the data (programmers tend to be complicated ;-) ).</p><p></p><p>The bonus would be, that we could could use our stereo-effects much more intuitively! Because, when i set up a reverb, i want to pan the voice according to the position of the singer and have the room-reverb respect that panning. A pannedMonoBus defaulting to the current master panning would give me just that. And by having PannedMonoBusses, i could drive my 4 FXes thrue stereo and still have 12 busses left for external effects and monitor wedges.</p><p></p><p>If this is done by the software of the console, this could be implemented fairly easily, because i could do it.</p><p></p><p>So – uli – please do it</p><p></p><p>Regard, rhavin</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rhavin Grobert, post: 101160, member: 5310"] Re: X32 Discussion Hi guys. If this is not the right place to post some feature-requests, please point me to some apropriate thread. I just bought an x32 and tested it intensively for a week now. There is much i like, but – that being said – some things i dont like and that i think could be done better: [LIST] [*]I need some way to export/import the whole library to/from computer and to/from USB. [*]I need a forth type of bus (see explanation below). [*]there should be a way to individualy color the assign-displays. [*]inputs shoud be allowed to become directly fed by an output, circumventing DA/AD-conversion. [*]It would give 7 additional color-codes if the displays could be individually inverted (just one additional bit needed!) [*]as summing of signals is done digitally (by software?) - is there any reason why there is no 7th matrix? [*]It should be possible to playback PCM-WAV in 24bit and 32bit. And please consider mp3. [*]L/R main, matrixes and M/C-Mono busses should be assignable to mute-groups. [*]iPhone 4s X32-Q seems to be unable to enter IP-adresses correctly. [*]The network layer should be able to understand DHCP or APIPA. [*]SETUP:Snippets should be editable and exportable to/from pc. [*]custom icons, no icon editor, just the posibility to import a well defined format. [*]I hope - as memory chips got really cheap today - you have'nt limited system memory; so a way to brand the startup by a png of defined size logo below the X32 logo would be a great and easy to implement gimmick. [*]some areas (connection from editor, brand logo, library save slots, update) should be configurable for password protection. [*]editor should support copy&pase of channel settings and inserting/deleting of channels by moving everything except assigned physical input up/down. Great if you just configured 14 channels and then notice that you just forgot a channel between 5 and 6:) [*]it should be possible to show a frequency analysis of the selected input channel on screen. [*]As S/PDIF on RCA is roughly electrical compatible to RCA-audio - is the A/D-converter resolution good enough to let the software reinterpret the signal as S/PDIF? [/LIST] I'm not shure which part of the signal path is processed by dedicated hardware chips and what is simply software (bloody details welcome ;-] ), DAWs like Cubase etc. show how much can be done solely by software. I have not yet looked inside the box, so here is some guessing involved I think – and as a programmer, this kind of thinking has some experience involved – most of my requests should be fairly easy to implement. == The Forth BusType == While the other requests should be pretty obvious, the forth type of busses needs some explanation. When doing stereo effects like delay, the delay engine is fed by two busses and their only purpose is to provide often minor differences in amplitude between L and R. So we're using up two faders (we always need just one) and we're using up two busses just for transfering input data that basicaly consists of two times the same sample in different amplitude and that could also be decribed by ONE sample and an additional byte just encoding the panning. So if this is done by software (like in most DAWs), here is my suggestion for a forth bus-type: the PannedMonoBus. It could be reasonable implemented like this: The send provides the amplitude (volume), a second-layer controller lets you choose, if you want to get the panning from the master L/R panner or if you want relatively or absolutely set a different panning. This be calculated and transfered in combination with every sample. Example, assuming the scale may be -1…0…+1: at a given time, a sample of -0.5/L+2 is fed into the bus from Ch3 and a sample of -0.2/R+3 is fed from Ch4. This could be calculated to a resulting sample with a given resulting panning. So this Bus would be exactly what i named it: a PannedMonoBus. If you still dont know what 'm talking about, just look at you master fader - this is one hardware fader controlling a software stereo-bus. exactly that i would like to have as a forth bus-type, i just suggested a way to lossless compress the data (programmers tend to be complicated ;-) ). The bonus would be, that we could could use our stereo-effects much more intuitively! Because, when i set up a reverb, i want to pan the voice according to the position of the singer and have the room-reverb respect that panning. A pannedMonoBus defaulting to the current master panning would give me just that. And by having PannedMonoBusses, i could drive my 4 FXes thrue stereo and still have 12 busses left for external effects and monitor wedges. If this is done by the software of the console, this could be implemented fairly easily, because i could do it. So – uli – please do it Regard, rhavin [/QUOTE]
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