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<blockquote data-quote="Arthur Skudra" data-source="post: 115480" data-attributes="member: 131"><p>Re: X32 v2 RTA</p><p></p><p>Presonus licensed the technology from Rational Acoustics, but even then, Presonus' implementation of Smaart is confined to a single-channel type measurements (RTA and spectrograph) that are smoothed to a lower resolution, along with a few cool setup wizards to guide a person through the process including setting delay speakers. Think of it as a stripped down version Smaart JR without any bells and whistles. It has enough capability to give an operator some very rudimentary tools for simple tasks, and to whet someone's appetite for buying a full working version of Smaart if they want to dig deeper into dual channel measurements. The same can be said of the Smaart Tools I addon app in the iOS Audio Tools suite. Great for soloing up a channel and looking at it's spectrum, spotting trends, looking for feedback squeaks, monitoring SPL, nothing more. Want to measure intelligibility, room acoustics, impedance, distortion, speaker polarity, voltage level, etc? There's another app and/or electronic device to make that possible.</p><p></p><p>No doubt anyone with enough coding experience and science know how can whip together a simple FFT tool (there are plenty out there, some crappy, some pretty good), but to have it display something useful and meaningful in our context as audio professionals is no easy feat. Rational has been in existence for over 5 years, with well over a decade of prior intellectual work to build on. Smaart didn't happen overnight, in fact some of the algorithms used are a result of a LOT of refinement over a long period of time (and still being tweaked to this day). Same applies to SysTune, SATLive, Wavecapture, ARTA, SIM, etc. To expect the equivalent from a manufacturer like Presonus or Behringer to be built into what's left of the DSP engine in a mixing console in the period of time of it's short development cycle is unrealistic. This is why Presonus was wise enough to get a third party to do their's, and not tie up the console's DSP to make it possible. Same with Digidesign and their analysis plugin. Same with Allen & Heath and their little RTA app. My hat's off to Behringer in making it happen in a limited fashion within the console's custom operating system and whatever DSP resources were left, that is no easy feat!</p><p></p><p>As I mentioned previously in this thread, if you expect a level of analysis that is the equivalent of the full version Smaart, it's best to buy it as a separate tool and run it on a separate computer that can supply the horsepower and resources needed to make it happen. Heck, the X32 could make for a great multi-channel Smaart interface via ASIO/CoreAudio!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arthur Skudra, post: 115480, member: 131"] Re: X32 v2 RTA Presonus licensed the technology from Rational Acoustics, but even then, Presonus' implementation of Smaart is confined to a single-channel type measurements (RTA and spectrograph) that are smoothed to a lower resolution, along with a few cool setup wizards to guide a person through the process including setting delay speakers. Think of it as a stripped down version Smaart JR without any bells and whistles. It has enough capability to give an operator some very rudimentary tools for simple tasks, and to whet someone's appetite for buying a full working version of Smaart if they want to dig deeper into dual channel measurements. The same can be said of the Smaart Tools I addon app in the iOS Audio Tools suite. Great for soloing up a channel and looking at it's spectrum, spotting trends, looking for feedback squeaks, monitoring SPL, nothing more. Want to measure intelligibility, room acoustics, impedance, distortion, speaker polarity, voltage level, etc? There's another app and/or electronic device to make that possible. No doubt anyone with enough coding experience and science know how can whip together a simple FFT tool (there are plenty out there, some crappy, some pretty good), but to have it display something useful and meaningful in our context as audio professionals is no easy feat. Rational has been in existence for over 5 years, with well over a decade of prior intellectual work to build on. Smaart didn't happen overnight, in fact some of the algorithms used are a result of a LOT of refinement over a long period of time (and still being tweaked to this day). Same applies to SysTune, SATLive, Wavecapture, ARTA, SIM, etc. To expect the equivalent from a manufacturer like Presonus or Behringer to be built into what's left of the DSP engine in a mixing console in the period of time of it's short development cycle is unrealistic. This is why Presonus was wise enough to get a third party to do their's, and not tie up the console's DSP to make it possible. Same with Digidesign and their analysis plugin. Same with Allen & Heath and their little RTA app. My hat's off to Behringer in making it happen in a limited fashion within the console's custom operating system and whatever DSP resources were left, that is no easy feat! As I mentioned previously in this thread, if you expect a level of analysis that is the equivalent of the full version Smaart, it's best to buy it as a separate tool and run it on a separate computer that can supply the horsepower and resources needed to make it happen. Heck, the X32 could make for a great multi-channel Smaart interface via ASIO/CoreAudio! [/QUOTE]
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