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<blockquote data-quote="Dan Mortensen" data-source="post: 123249" data-attributes="member: 2826"><p>Re: CARE TEAM - need help. Audio Dropouts on AES50</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Although I don't really want to start a fight, every single thing in this post is wrong IMHO.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Phase schmase. Having the PA across several phases of the same supply with the same ground has no effect on modern equipment. Having different ground references can have an effect, but that's not what you're saying.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is exactly wrong, because the shield's purpose is to protect the cable innards from Electro Static Discharge, which can happen on either end of the cable. If you have your stage and FOH devices on the same ground reference, ground loops will not occur but ESD will, eventually. Brian Wynn showed conclusively in November 2013 that both shield ends need to be connected, and I have replicated his results. </p><p></p><p>All bets are off if your two devices have vastly different ground references. I don't know what will happen then.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know already you really don't mean "anything" like floors or walls or children, but rather sources of possible interference. Our Audio over Ethernet cable workshop showed that UTP is immune to interference, and Brian showed that STP makes the connection immune from ESD interference, which is magnitudes greater than induced interference. Or at least lots greater.</p><p></p><p>The 90 degree thing would be good advice if there was a problem with electrical fields from the other cables, but I don't believe there is in this case.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See above.</p><p></p><p>Mr. McCoy clearly has a problem, but none of this "advice" is going to be helpful to him. Sorry to burst your balloon. And I'm always ready to be proven wrong, but this seems pretty clearcut. There are still mysteries, though....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dan Mortensen, post: 123249, member: 2826"] Re: CARE TEAM - need help. Audio Dropouts on AES50 Although I don't really want to start a fight, every single thing in this post is wrong IMHO. Phase schmase. Having the PA across several phases of the same supply with the same ground has no effect on modern equipment. Having different ground references can have an effect, but that's not what you're saying. This is exactly wrong, because the shield's purpose is to protect the cable innards from Electro Static Discharge, which can happen on either end of the cable. If you have your stage and FOH devices on the same ground reference, ground loops will not occur but ESD will, eventually. Brian Wynn showed conclusively in November 2013 that both shield ends need to be connected, and I have replicated his results. All bets are off if your two devices have vastly different ground references. I don't know what will happen then. I know already you really don't mean "anything" like floors or walls or children, but rather sources of possible interference. Our Audio over Ethernet cable workshop showed that UTP is immune to interference, and Brian showed that STP makes the connection immune from ESD interference, which is magnitudes greater than induced interference. Or at least lots greater. The 90 degree thing would be good advice if there was a problem with electrical fields from the other cables, but I don't believe there is in this case. See above. Mr. McCoy clearly has a problem, but none of this "advice" is going to be helpful to him. Sorry to burst your balloon. And I'm always ready to be proven wrong, but this seems pretty clearcut. There are still mysteries, though.... [/QUOTE]
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