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<blockquote data-quote="Dan Mortensen" data-source="post: 123700" data-attributes="member: 2826">Re: Rhythm DelayWith all due respect, do you really think it&#039;s appropriate to tell experienced people what the best way is to do their work?You are certainly free to suggest alternate methods to achieve a result, but it&#039;s clearly up to the individual to decide what works for them and what doesn&#039;t. A product that doesn&#039;t work for them doesn&#039;t work for them. If its methodology is different than every other single product on the market to the point where use of it yields repeated wrong results, then yes, the one that has worked right 5000 times is the correct one and the one that doesn&#039;t fit expectations is the wrong one.John&#039;s explanation above makes perfect sense why averaging is NOT the way to go for a large number of likely situations, so that seems settled to me.And it&#039;s nice that you have an opinion, but they have opinions, too, and theirs is right for them and yours isn&#039;t.The guy I referred to earlier about the video (JJ) has done another talk about loudness, in which he explains that it is a perceptual phenomenon and not a measureable phenomenon like SPL. People&#039;s opinions about what is too loud or too soft are right, because it is subjective, and no amount of arguing will change their perception, and your or my opinion carries no more weight than theirs. It may take a while to understand that as audio practioners, but that is what it boils down to. (A three sentence summary of an hour-long talk.)This discussion is analogous to that one.FWIW I felt in 1.15 that I was having goofy tap time results and thought it was me. I don&#039;t do tap tempos very often so it could very well be me, but now I&#039;m not so sure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dan Mortensen, post: 123700, member: 2826"] Re: Rhythm Delay With all due respect, do you really think it's appropriate to tell experienced people what the best way is to do their work? You are certainly free to suggest alternate methods to achieve a result, but it's clearly up to the individual to decide what works for them and what doesn't. A product that doesn't work for them doesn't work for them. If its methodology is different than every other single product on the market to the point where use of it yields repeated wrong results, then yes, the one that has worked right 5000 times is the correct one and the one that doesn't fit expectations is the wrong one. John's explanation above makes perfect sense why averaging is NOT the way to go for a large number of likely situations, so that seems settled to me. And it's nice that you have an opinion, but they have opinions, too, and theirs is right for them and yours isn't. The guy I referred to earlier about the video (JJ) has done another talk about loudness, in which he explains that it is a perceptual phenomenon and not a measureable phenomenon like SPL. People's opinions about what is too loud or too soft are right, because it is subjective, and no amount of arguing will change their perception, and your or my opinion carries no more weight than theirs. It may take a while to understand that as audio practioners, but that is what it boils down to. (A three sentence summary of an hour-long talk.) This discussion is analogous to that one. FWIW I felt in 1.15 that I was having goofy tap time results and thought it was me. I don't do tap tempos very often so it could very well be me, but now I'm not so sure. [/QUOTE]

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