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<blockquote data-quote="Howard Tomlinson" data-source="post: 125587" data-attributes="member: 6460">Re: X32 Discussioni honestly have no idea how it is in the USA but a large percentage of younger engineers (28 or less) in the UK DO carry university degrees or similar. to a lesser extent some in their 30&#039;s do but I haven&#039;t met any peers (i&#039;m in my late 40&#039;s) who have - it&#039;s just another example of an evolving industry. I built my business on sound design - i hire in from larger companies or my clients do (anything from bar bands to small theatre gigs) - the mantra for my hire co colleagues is don&#039;t buy what you can&#039;t hire and don&#039;t buy it until you have a job for it - that&#039;s not dissimilar to other supplier and manufacturer &#039;just in time&#039; processes. my job IS to design something that works for my clients and execute a production and mix that production - doesn&#039;t matter whether it&#039;s a tiny bar of 50 with an open door or a theatre of 800 with ticket entry. along with the digital revolution there is a shifting customer expectation, both from the attendee and the band that they get something &#039;special&#039; - otherwise they can go up the road to the next bar/theatre or take in a movie with surround sound or any one of the other 100&#039;s of attractions that exist in the average town. there has never been a greater need for someone the band trust and who designs a full solution to a show that they can rely on, build their reputation on and move up the chain - or just make where they are at pay better. hence both bands purchasing gear that would have previously been out of their range and to hire in guys like us. at the bottom of the pile, the business model of selling boxes for hire is dead. whether you know it yet or not. the business model of providing solutions to problems will never die - so long as you can spot what the problem is! So yeah engineers really are engineers and we really are designing solutions - if you do this and someone else provides the gear then you are akin to a civil engineering consultant - if you provide the gear too then you are a contractor designer, if you just hire out gear to others then you are the plant hire co. and just like the plant hire co you need to decide whether you want to buy in a big earth mover or a half dozen bob cats. if you stop thinking about businesses as people who sell and start thinking of them as problem solvers then the rest will follow. when a market evolves, those that fail to catch on fall by the wayside.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Howard Tomlinson, post: 125587, member: 6460"] Re: X32 Discussion i honestly have no idea how it is in the USA but a large percentage of younger engineers (28 or less) in the UK DO carry university degrees or similar. to a lesser extent some in their 30's do but I haven't met any peers (i'm in my late 40's) who have - it's just another example of an evolving industry. I built my business on sound design - i hire in from larger companies or my clients do (anything from bar bands to small theatre gigs) - the mantra for my hire co colleagues is don't buy what you can't hire and don't buy it until you have a job for it - that's not dissimilar to other supplier and manufacturer 'just in time' processes. my job IS to design something that works for my clients and execute a production and mix that production - doesn't matter whether it's a tiny bar of 50 with an open door or a theatre of 800 with ticket entry. along with the digital revolution there is a shifting customer expectation, both from the attendee and the band that they get something 'special' - otherwise they can go up the road to the next bar/theatre or take in a movie with surround sound or any one of the other 100's of attractions that exist in the average town. there has never been a greater need for someone the band trust and who designs a full solution to a show that they can rely on, build their reputation on and move up the chain - or just make where they are at pay better. hence both bands purchasing gear that would have previously been out of their range and to hire in guys like us. at the bottom of the pile, the business model of selling boxes for hire is dead. whether you know it yet or not. the business model of providing solutions to problems will never die - so long as you can spot what the problem is! So yeah engineers really are engineers and we really are designing solutions - if you do this and someone else provides the gear then you are akin to a civil engineering consultant - if you provide the gear too then you are a contractor designer, if you just hire out gear to others then you are the plant hire co. and just like the plant hire co you need to decide whether you want to buy in a big earth mover or a half dozen bob cats. if you stop thinking about businesses as people who sell and start thinking of them as problem solvers then the rest will follow. when a market evolves, those that fail to catch on fall by the wayside. [/QUOTE]

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