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<blockquote data-quote="Christian Boche" data-source="post: 55379" data-attributes="member: 1698"><p>re: X32 Discussion</p><p></p><p>I was busy the last days with some gigs, two of them I did with the X32 and I had a blast!</p><p></p><p>@Per: You are right, the channel dynamcis don't have a compressor AND a limiter. Therefore you have to insert the "percision limiter" (which is really good btw) as dedicated FX, or route this channel to a subgroup and limit it there.</p><p>As a compensation I can assure you, that the basic channel compressor is nothing but awesome. Ducking, gateting, compression, sidechaining, expanding...it's all there, with lots of parameter--></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2910/mqv7xh2d_jpg.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/mqv7xh2d.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2910/xdkhadvf_jpg.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/xdkhadvf.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p></p><p>To2: If you mute a channel on the X32 it is also muted on the S-16 (AES50). Concerning the P-16 outs, it depends, what kind of signal it is and how it is tapped. </p><p>Plain directs out f.e., can be routed pre/post Eq, pre/post fader individualy. You can choose for each of your P-16 inputs from this selection:</p><p></p><p>Main left</p><p>Main right</p><p>Main Mono/center</p><p>Mix Bus 1-16</p><p>Matrix 1-6</p><p>Direct out Channel 1-32</p><p>Direct out Aux Channel 1-8</p><p>Direct out Fx 1-4 (left/right)</p><p>Monitor L</p><p>Monitor R</p><p>Talkback</p><p></p><p>So you could use a mixbus for submixing a complete drumset and send this to P-16 on channel 1 (or stereo on channel 1+2), and still have plently of sources/channels left for your P-16M personal monitormixer. Also nice, the P-16 signals are embedded in the AES50 stream! You can tap it on the back of the S-16. I used it yesterday to feed the InEar system of the guitarplayer. Grabbed the signal from the S-16, sended into the P-16D distributor (the advantage of the P-16D is, that the P-16M personal mixer is powered through the CAT5 cabel and you don't need a wall wart). The guitar player loved it, that he could adjust his InEar mix on stage and "on the fly"--></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2910/8o43qeoa_jpg.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://s1.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/8o43qeoa.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>BTW, I used a cheapo 80 meter CAT5 cable and it worked flawless. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2910/w9jsj9u7_jpg.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/w9jsj9u7.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>To3: Power loss behaviour:</p><p>The P16 produces a light popping sound, when power is cut and restored. Nothing to care about, will definitely not harm anyone. </p><p>Same behaviour when the Cat5 breaks or is disconnected during use.</p><p> </p><p>S-16:</p><p>Removeing CAT5 cable during operation is no problem. No "popping" or any audio artifacs hearable. Time for resyncronisation is less than 3 seconds. </p><p>Power loss on the S-16 is a bit more problematic. You will see all active channels clip once, when the power on the X32 or the S-16 is lost. </p><p>Good thing is, the clipping noise is a short high frequenzy sound with not much acoustic engery, it will definitely not kill your speakers. </p><p>I can assure that, because yesterday we had a power loss on the S-16 during the show, caused by a person, </p><p>who thought it would be a good idea to could pull our power cable and than plugin his power adaptor for charging his cell phone. </p><p>No joke! So, like with all digital consoles you should an USV…always. Good thing is, when the power is restored, </p><p>the X32 and/or S-16 won’t produce any audio artifacts during start up. </p><p></p><p>@Eric: Switching between scenes is flawless, fast and there is no hearable muting of the audio. There are lots of parameter and channel safes. </p><p>The only thing, that I couldn’t find, was a adjustable fade time.--></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2910/w8mh63vp_jpg.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/w8mh63vp.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2910/uabzkf8w_jpg.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://s7.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/uabzkf8w.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>The job on friday was also nice, but I had to do it with my old "copper monster" core, because I needed 28 inputs for the band. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2910/xn9sgrff_jpg.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://s7.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/xn9sgrff.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2910/bqaxi9s2_jpg.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/bqaxi9s2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2910/qruigovh_jpg.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://s7.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/qruigovh.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Rock on</p><p>Christian</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Christian Boche, post: 55379, member: 1698"] re: X32 Discussion I was busy the last days with some gigs, two of them I did with the X32 and I had a blast! @Per: You are right, the channel dynamcis don't have a compressor AND a limiter. Therefore you have to insert the "percision limiter" (which is really good btw) as dedicated FX, or route this channel to a subgroup and limit it there. As a compensation I can assure you, that the basic channel compressor is nothing but awesome. Ducking, gateting, compression, sidechaining, expanding...it's all there, with lots of parameter--> [URL="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2910/mqv7xh2d_jpg.htm"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/mqv7xh2d.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2910/xdkhadvf_jpg.htm"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/xdkhadvf.jpg[/IMG][/URL] To2: If you mute a channel on the X32 it is also muted on the S-16 (AES50). Concerning the P-16 outs, it depends, what kind of signal it is and how it is tapped. Plain directs out f.e., can be routed pre/post Eq, pre/post fader individualy. You can choose for each of your P-16 inputs from this selection: Main left Main right Main Mono/center Mix Bus 1-16 Matrix 1-6 Direct out Channel 1-32 Direct out Aux Channel 1-8 Direct out Fx 1-4 (left/right) Monitor L Monitor R Talkback So you could use a mixbus for submixing a complete drumset and send this to P-16 on channel 1 (or stereo on channel 1+2), and still have plently of sources/channels left for your P-16M personal monitormixer. Also nice, the P-16 signals are embedded in the AES50 stream! You can tap it on the back of the S-16. I used it yesterday to feed the InEar system of the guitarplayer. Grabbed the signal from the S-16, sended into the P-16D distributor (the advantage of the P-16D is, that the P-16M personal mixer is powered through the CAT5 cabel and you don't need a wall wart). The guitar player loved it, that he could adjust his InEar mix on stage and "on the fly"--> [URL="http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2910/8o43qeoa_jpg.htm"][IMG]http://s1.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/8o43qeoa.jpg[/IMG][/URL] BTW, I used a cheapo 80 meter CAT5 cable and it worked flawless. [URL="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2910/w9jsj9u7_jpg.htm"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/w9jsj9u7.jpg[/IMG][/URL] To3: Power loss behaviour: The P16 produces a light popping sound, when power is cut and restored. Nothing to care about, will definitely not harm anyone. Same behaviour when the Cat5 breaks or is disconnected during use. S-16: Removeing CAT5 cable during operation is no problem. No "popping" or any audio artifacs hearable. Time for resyncronisation is less than 3 seconds. Power loss on the S-16 is a bit more problematic. You will see all active channels clip once, when the power on the X32 or the S-16 is lost. Good thing is, the clipping noise is a short high frequenzy sound with not much acoustic engery, it will definitely not kill your speakers. I can assure that, because yesterday we had a power loss on the S-16 during the show, caused by a person, who thought it would be a good idea to could pull our power cable and than plugin his power adaptor for charging his cell phone. No joke! So, like with all digital consoles you should an USV…always. Good thing is, when the power is restored, the X32 and/or S-16 won’t produce any audio artifacts during start up. @Eric: Switching between scenes is flawless, fast and there is no hearable muting of the audio. There are lots of parameter and channel safes. The only thing, that I couldn’t find, was a adjustable fade time.--> [URL="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2910/w8mh63vp_jpg.htm"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/w8mh63vp.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2910/uabzkf8w_jpg.htm"][IMG]http://s7.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/uabzkf8w.jpg[/IMG][/URL] The job on friday was also nice, but I had to do it with my old "copper monster" core, because I needed 28 inputs for the band. [URL="http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2910/xn9sgrff_jpg.htm"][IMG]http://s7.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/xn9sgrff.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2910/bqaxi9s2_jpg.htm"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/bqaxi9s2.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2910/qruigovh_jpg.htm"][IMG]http://s7.directupload.net/images/120603/temp/qruigovh.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Rock on Christian [/QUOTE]
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