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<blockquote data-quote="Christian Boche" data-source="post: 57809" data-attributes="member: 1698"><p>re: X32 Discussion</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Excellent question and a very difficult topic. If I would be Uli Behringer I would refuse any words on compatibility concerning firewire cards/laptos and stuff.</p><p>To be honest, the whole audio computer (especially with laptops) stuff is an absolut mess! Two examples:</p><p></p><p>Once I bought a laptop, that was suggested by the forums admin of the RME-Audio forum. It had TI chipssets thoughout so I bought it and never got it to work. :-( Turns out, that the maufactor exchanged some hardwareparts in comparison to the laptop, of the forums admin bought four months ago. To sum it up: If even RME does not recommend any hardware (PCs) anymore (this is their policy now!), then we are all screwed! Solution:</p><p>If you want to make sure, that your computer will perform 100% you should buy a turnkey system from a professional DAW builder, unless you a friend of "trail&error"!</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.adkproaudio.com" target="_blank">ADK Pro Audio| Digital Audio workstations, Pro Audio Laptops, Pro audio interfaces, Pro audio software, DAW.</a></p><p><a href="http://www.dawplus.com" target="_blank">Home - DAW PLUS</a></p><p></p><p>Behringer will soon face the fact, that some user will blame Behringer that the firewire recording card does not work right. EVERY audio interface manufator has to deal with this problem. Most of the time, it is not the audio interface - it is the computer, that sucks! There are so many pitfalls, why a computer does not work as it should.. just to mention a few: </p><p></p><p>+IQR conflicts </p><p>+graphic cards, that stomp on your audio</p><p>+Windows default settings</p><p>+wrong firewire chipsets (be sure you have an Texas Instrument chipset or one a the latest via, AVIOD 02Micro and Riccoh chipsets)</p><p>+wrong driver (sometimes you better go the fiwi legancy driver)</p><p>and so on and so on....</p><p>+Windows7...turn OFF the Aero design (this turns off the Windows boarderpadding). Than...the newest mainbords (for the i5 and i7 cpu's) if the have a PCI slot anyway, most of the PCI slots are connected over a bridge now to the PCI bus. So you better go with an PCIe card, but there a not so many PCIe card with TI chipsets on the market....like I said...it is a mess and everyone will tell you different story about it. If you want to hear my personal view to this:</p><p></p><p>Use Windows XP and tweak it after this advices--> </p><p><a href="http://www.softwareaudioconsole.com/Tweaking_Windows.htm" target="_blank">SAC - Tweaking Windows</a></p><p>Buy this PCI card--></p><p><a href="http://www.exsys.ch/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=62&language=en&zenid=2c9f3eb412ac557b5a0c82360af45236" target="_blank">EX-6450 - FireWire PCI card with 2+1 ports (TI chip) [EX-6450] : EXSYS - Selling of : FireWire, Bluetooth, PCI -, ISA - & Moxa cards, PCMCIA, USB Products, External Enclosures, Serial ATA, The specialist for Computer Products</a></p><p>this "could/should" work<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I do have two desktop PCs (both Core2Cuo, intel E8400 CPU, Asus Mainboard, the FiWi card mentioned above and Windows tweaking), both of them run 32channel in&out from/to the X32 with 48 Samples over firewire with no problems.</p><p>On the other hand I got a new Acer 8935 laptop with TI FiWi expresscard and Windows7 tweaked to the optimum for realtime audio and this thing just sucks!</p><p>My crappy old ASUS A6ja laptop (from the stone age) runs fine with 92samples over the build in firewire port. Go figure!</p><p></p><p>Tomorrow a friend of mine will come to see the X32. He will bring his MacBook Pro and we will see, how this works with the X32 over firewire.</p><p>Christian</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Christian Boche, post: 57809, member: 1698"] re: X32 Discussion Excellent question and a very difficult topic. If I would be Uli Behringer I would refuse any words on compatibility concerning firewire cards/laptos and stuff. To be honest, the whole audio computer (especially with laptops) stuff is an absolut mess! Two examples: Once I bought a laptop, that was suggested by the forums admin of the RME-Audio forum. It had TI chipssets thoughout so I bought it and never got it to work. :-( Turns out, that the maufactor exchanged some hardwareparts in comparison to the laptop, of the forums admin bought four months ago. To sum it up: If even RME does not recommend any hardware (PCs) anymore (this is their policy now!), then we are all screwed! Solution: If you want to make sure, that your computer will perform 100% you should buy a turnkey system from a professional DAW builder, unless you a friend of "trail&error"! [URL="http://www.adkproaudio.com"]ADK Pro Audio| Digital Audio workstations, Pro Audio Laptops, Pro audio interfaces, Pro audio software, DAW.[/URL] [URL="http://www.dawplus.com"]Home - DAW PLUS[/URL] Behringer will soon face the fact, that some user will blame Behringer that the firewire recording card does not work right. EVERY audio interface manufator has to deal with this problem. Most of the time, it is not the audio interface - it is the computer, that sucks! There are so many pitfalls, why a computer does not work as it should.. just to mention a few: +IQR conflicts +graphic cards, that stomp on your audio +Windows default settings +wrong firewire chipsets (be sure you have an Texas Instrument chipset or one a the latest via, AVIOD 02Micro and Riccoh chipsets) +wrong driver (sometimes you better go the fiwi legancy driver) and so on and so on.... +Windows7...turn OFF the Aero design (this turns off the Windows boarderpadding). Than...the newest mainbords (for the i5 and i7 cpu's) if the have a PCI slot anyway, most of the PCI slots are connected over a bridge now to the PCI bus. So you better go with an PCIe card, but there a not so many PCIe card with TI chipsets on the market....like I said...it is a mess and everyone will tell you different story about it. If you want to hear my personal view to this: Use Windows XP and tweak it after this advices--> [URL="http://www.softwareaudioconsole.com/Tweaking_Windows.htm"]SAC - Tweaking Windows[/URL] Buy this PCI card--> [URL="http://www.exsys.ch/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=62&language=en&zenid=2c9f3eb412ac557b5a0c82360af45236"]EX-6450 - FireWire PCI card with 2+1 ports (TI chip) [EX-6450] : EXSYS - Selling of : FireWire, Bluetooth, PCI -, ISA - & Moxa cards, PCMCIA, USB Products, External Enclosures, Serial ATA, The specialist for Computer Products[/URL] this "could/should" work:-) I do have two desktop PCs (both Core2Cuo, intel E8400 CPU, Asus Mainboard, the FiWi card mentioned above and Windows tweaking), both of them run 32channel in&out from/to the X32 with 48 Samples over firewire with no problems. On the other hand I got a new Acer 8935 laptop with TI FiWi expresscard and Windows7 tweaked to the optimum for realtime audio and this thing just sucks! My crappy old ASUS A6ja laptop (from the stone age) runs fine with 92samples over the build in firewire port. Go figure! Tomorrow a friend of mine will come to see the X32. He will bring his MacBook Pro and we will see, how this works with the X32 over firewire. Christian [/QUOTE]
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