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<blockquote data-quote="Christian Boche" data-source="post: 64833" data-attributes="member: 1698"><p>re: X32 Discussion</p><p></p><p>Hi guys,</p><p></p><p>just one X32 gig for me last week. Just the opposite to my last one. Last time I had professional and loud pa rig, but very strict SPL limits. This time, the promoter wanted a loud R'n'R show but provided a mediocore PA system. :roll:</p><p>I got in touch before the gig with the guy, who provided the system and we agreed on six Meyersound PSW-4 subs and four Meyersound UPAs for a small crowd waiting for us at a brithday party. Our host is a professional lumber jack and as a real outsdoors man, he set up his event also outdoors. Boy, it is getting really cold here at nights. The difference in temperature was insane, almost 15 degrees (from 19 at noon to 4°C at midnight!). Quite similar to my thrill of anticipation concerning the PA rig.</p><p>When we arrived, there were just four Meyersound PSW-4 and two Peavey Hi Sys 15/1" Tops. Welcome to the real world of the small town entertainment8)~<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="8-)" title="Cool 8-)" data-smilie="6"data-shortname="8-)" />~<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p>Well, it is what it is and we set up the backline. The funny thing is, that the host himself build quite a nice stage into his warehouse...but the PA rig?</p><p> Before even listen to it, I organised two Coke crates, to get the Peaveys to a higher ground. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.directupload.net" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/o5e36vrf.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.directupload.net" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/suq2p8n9.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Of course, the guy who provided the system wasn't around, just two XLR line with (L/R) taped to it. Well, I was prepared for a medicore sound, but when I raised the Kick drum fader during soundcheck it got the giggles.</p><p>This was the worst PA system I ever heard and I heared a few the last 20 years! The fun part was, that the Peavey acutally was the best part of it<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /> I couldn't help it, I instantly had to laugh. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /> </p><p>The facial expression of the bystanders showed me, that they were thinking "WTF!?...what's up with the soundguy?"</p><p></p><p>I grabbed the open wireless mic and went to the amprack. The Subs are active and the Peaveys were driven with an acienct electro voice amp. Ok, there was my problem...the complete system ran without any crossover! No lowcut for the peaveys, no high cut for the Meyer subs! I belief, the Meyer sub have a build in crossover between the 18" and 15" speaker and likely a high cut somewhere around 160-200Hz, but speaking through the mic, you could clearly hear the lows of voice comming through the 15" speakers of the subs. With each bass drum the Lo-Limiter of the subs waved the white flag. The only "quick fix" was to to create a deep cut with the the build in parametric EQ in the X32 mastersection (between 80Hz and 160Hz). So no fat snare, no thick guitars this night - quite annying for a band the plays from fxxcking German Schlager music to songs from VolBeat or Metallica. In addition I compressed the hell out of everything and I replaced the 31GEQ in the mains with the precision limiter from the effects section. Now I got at least levels around 95 dBa for the 200 party people and my X32 was just about eight meters away from the PA system...</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.directupload.net" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/kmht32zg.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Now to the good things. I'm with this band for almost 20 years now, since I use the X32, the guitar player uses the P-16M monitorsystem. At this gig, the drummer used a P-16M for the first time. Without further instructions he was able to set up a nice sound for himself. After the gig he said, that he now want's to use the P-16M on a regular basis. 8)~<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="8-)" title="Cool 8-)" data-smilie="6"data-shortname="8-)" />~<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.directupload.net" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/7wsqkh9r.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.directupload.net" target="_blank"><img src="http://s7.directupload.net/images/120924/tsk48t39.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Beside freezing my tail off, I went twice to the party-catering. Our host set up a food truck, serving solely brat&curry-wurst (sausages) with french fries. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.directupload.net" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/btgkqt9r.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Of couse the was an oversized beer stall too, but I rather prefered a Glühwein (hot wine punch). </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.directupload.net" target="_blank"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/en974zmt.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Anyway...due to the difference in temperature the X32 collected more and more condensed water. </p><p>It was so extreme, that it looked if some had spilled over a beer over the desk! But it worked perfect like always. </p><p>No glitches due to the extrem air moisture.</p><p></p><p>Have a great week!</p><p>Christian</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Christian Boche, post: 64833, member: 1698"] re: X32 Discussion Hi guys, just one X32 gig for me last week. Just the opposite to my last one. Last time I had professional and loud pa rig, but very strict SPL limits. This time, the promoter wanted a loud R'n'R show but provided a mediocore PA system. :roll: I got in touch before the gig with the guy, who provided the system and we agreed on six Meyersound PSW-4 subs and four Meyersound UPAs for a small crowd waiting for us at a brithday party. Our host is a professional lumber jack and as a real outsdoors man, he set up his event also outdoors. Boy, it is getting really cold here at nights. The difference in temperature was insane, almost 15 degrees (from 19 at noon to 4°C at midnight!). Quite similar to my thrill of anticipation concerning the PA rig. When we arrived, there were just four Meyersound PSW-4 and two Peavey Hi Sys 15/1" Tops. Welcome to the real world of the small town entertainment8)~8-)~:cool: Well, it is what it is and we set up the backline. The funny thing is, that the host himself build quite a nice stage into his warehouse...but the PA rig? Before even listen to it, I organised two Coke crates, to get the Peaveys to a higher ground. [URL="http://www.directupload.net"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/o5e36vrf.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://www.directupload.net"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/suq2p8n9.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Of course, the guy who provided the system wasn't around, just two XLR line with (L/R) taped to it. Well, I was prepared for a medicore sound, but when I raised the Kick drum fader during soundcheck it got the giggles. This was the worst PA system I ever heard and I heared a few the last 20 years! The fun part was, that the Peavey acutally was the best part of it:-) I couldn't help it, I instantly had to laugh. :-) The facial expression of the bystanders showed me, that they were thinking "WTF!?...what's up with the soundguy?" I grabbed the open wireless mic and went to the amprack. The Subs are active and the Peaveys were driven with an acienct electro voice amp. Ok, there was my problem...the complete system ran without any crossover! No lowcut for the peaveys, no high cut for the Meyer subs! I belief, the Meyer sub have a build in crossover between the 18" and 15" speaker and likely a high cut somewhere around 160-200Hz, but speaking through the mic, you could clearly hear the lows of voice comming through the 15" speakers of the subs. With each bass drum the Lo-Limiter of the subs waved the white flag. The only "quick fix" was to to create a deep cut with the the build in parametric EQ in the X32 mastersection (between 80Hz and 160Hz). So no fat snare, no thick guitars this night - quite annying for a band the plays from fxxcking German Schlager music to songs from VolBeat or Metallica. In addition I compressed the hell out of everything and I replaced the 31GEQ in the mains with the precision limiter from the effects section. Now I got at least levels around 95 dBa for the 200 party people and my X32 was just about eight meters away from the PA system... [URL="http://www.directupload.net"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/kmht32zg.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Now to the good things. I'm with this band for almost 20 years now, since I use the X32, the guitar player uses the P-16M monitorsystem. At this gig, the drummer used a P-16M for the first time. Without further instructions he was able to set up a nice sound for himself. After the gig he said, that he now want's to use the P-16M on a regular basis. 8)~8-)~:cool: [URL="http://www.directupload.net"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/7wsqkh9r.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://www.directupload.net"][IMG]http://s7.directupload.net/images/120924/tsk48t39.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Beside freezing my tail off, I went twice to the party-catering. Our host set up a food truck, serving solely brat&curry-wurst (sausages) with french fries. [URL="http://www.directupload.net"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/btgkqt9r.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Of couse the was an oversized beer stall too, but I rather prefered a Glühwein (hot wine punch). [URL="http://www.directupload.net"][IMG]http://s14.directupload.net/images/120924/en974zmt.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Anyway...due to the difference in temperature the X32 collected more and more condensed water. It was so extreme, that it looked if some had spilled over a beer over the desk! But it worked perfect like always. No glitches due to the extrem air moisture. Have a great week! Christian [/QUOTE]
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