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<blockquote data-quote="Karl Barnes" data-source="post: 66920" data-attributes="member: 2121"><p>Re: X32 Discussion</p><p></p><p>OK, here's a gig report.</p><p></p><p>Tribute band (24 channels of mics and instruments).</p><p>Small venue (120 punters)</p><p></p><p>Setup.</p><p>Soooo much easier than last time I was here (with a Yamaha MG32/14FX and rack of processing).</p><p>No gates to cross patch, no external FX or CD players to hook up.</p><p>That alone saved half an hour of wrangling snakes.</p><p>The P16 monitoring system was easy to put together, although CAT5 cable is a bugger to uncoil (I used Belkin cable. Is there a CAT5 cable with the coiling properties of mic cable?).</p><p>Hooked up a laptop wirelessly to use the XCtontrol software. No problems encountered.</p><p>Also connected the laptop using USB from the XUF card for recording into Cubase (in a rehearsal I found that connecting with the ethernet and USB to the same laptop could create an audible ground loop; possibly due to the wiring of the room, but I didn't want to take the chance at the gig).</p><p></p><p>The soundcheck went OK. The band got used to the P16s quite quickly. The singer loved the flexibility.</p><p></p><p>The gig.</p><p>The desk worked flawlessly. I used a cheap MP3 player as playback instead of a CD player, so that I could record a 2 track to an onboard attached USB stick.</p><p>Overall I was happy at the way the desk worked and the way that it sounded.</p><p>The 2 track recording sounds noticable better than recordings made from my previous desks.</p><p></p><p>Comments/observations</p><p>What would have made my life easier would have been vertical channel linking rather than horizontal.</p><p>Having some sort of FBD identification on the master bus graphic EQ would have been handy (had it on my FBQ3102) but not essential. However I didn't want to have to start playing with the parametric EQ on the mic channel that was howling. A feedback destroyer in the insert path would be handy there. I spent one song sweeping the EQ with a narrow cut to try to find the offending frequency. As it was only a backing mic, I just turned it down and got on with the rest of the show.</p><p>The clicking noise is still present when the MP3 player is paused (firmware v1.09).</p><p>EQ on the FX returns would be a help, even if there is something in the FX unit itself. When the gig is happening, your thought patterns revert to a basic level. To adjust EQ, you would use the channel EQ. Having to start programming the FX units is not something I'd want to do mid-gig.</p><p></p><p>The 32 channel multitrack recording to Cubase worked with no errors.</p><p>I had played with this in a rehearsal and set up a template song, so all I had to do was load it and hit record.</p><p>At the end of the first set, I stopped the recording, saved it, and created a new song for the second set.</p><p>In the rehearsal I found it more reliable to have the laptop doing the recording set to its internal clock, rather than trying to sync to the desk all the time.</p><p>All I need to do now is work out how to play back from the laptop into the desk...</p><p></p><p>In conclusion, the X32 has simplified my setup considerably. It has also provided some new functions (multitrack recording, P16 monitoring).</p><p>Yes, there are a few extra things I'd like the desk to be able to do, but it's nothing that I wouldn't have liked my 01V96 to have been able to have done as well (apart from the vertical pairing; it could do that!). I lived with what the 01V96 could do and I can live with the X32.</p><p></p><p>Roll on the release of the S16s...!</p><p></p><p>Karl.</p><p></p><p>P.S. One final thing is the firmware updates. The USB stick that I use to record the shows on will not work for firmware updates. nor will several other sticks I have. The only one that works is a very old 1GB stick. Not a complaint, just an observation. It took serveral attempts and an e-mail to Behringer to work that one out...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Karl Barnes, post: 66920, member: 2121"] Re: X32 Discussion OK, here's a gig report. Tribute band (24 channels of mics and instruments). Small venue (120 punters) Setup. Soooo much easier than last time I was here (with a Yamaha MG32/14FX and rack of processing). No gates to cross patch, no external FX or CD players to hook up. That alone saved half an hour of wrangling snakes. The P16 monitoring system was easy to put together, although CAT5 cable is a bugger to uncoil (I used Belkin cable. Is there a CAT5 cable with the coiling properties of mic cable?). Hooked up a laptop wirelessly to use the XCtontrol software. No problems encountered. Also connected the laptop using USB from the XUF card for recording into Cubase (in a rehearsal I found that connecting with the ethernet and USB to the same laptop could create an audible ground loop; possibly due to the wiring of the room, but I didn't want to take the chance at the gig). The soundcheck went OK. The band got used to the P16s quite quickly. The singer loved the flexibility. The gig. The desk worked flawlessly. I used a cheap MP3 player as playback instead of a CD player, so that I could record a 2 track to an onboard attached USB stick. Overall I was happy at the way the desk worked and the way that it sounded. The 2 track recording sounds noticable better than recordings made from my previous desks. Comments/observations What would have made my life easier would have been vertical channel linking rather than horizontal. Having some sort of FBD identification on the master bus graphic EQ would have been handy (had it on my FBQ3102) but not essential. However I didn't want to have to start playing with the parametric EQ on the mic channel that was howling. A feedback destroyer in the insert path would be handy there. I spent one song sweeping the EQ with a narrow cut to try to find the offending frequency. As it was only a backing mic, I just turned it down and got on with the rest of the show. The clicking noise is still present when the MP3 player is paused (firmware v1.09). EQ on the FX returns would be a help, even if there is something in the FX unit itself. When the gig is happening, your thought patterns revert to a basic level. To adjust EQ, you would use the channel EQ. Having to start programming the FX units is not something I'd want to do mid-gig. The 32 channel multitrack recording to Cubase worked with no errors. I had played with this in a rehearsal and set up a template song, so all I had to do was load it and hit record. At the end of the first set, I stopped the recording, saved it, and created a new song for the second set. In the rehearsal I found it more reliable to have the laptop doing the recording set to its internal clock, rather than trying to sync to the desk all the time. All I need to do now is work out how to play back from the laptop into the desk... In conclusion, the X32 has simplified my setup considerably. It has also provided some new functions (multitrack recording, P16 monitoring). Yes, there are a few extra things I'd like the desk to be able to do, but it's nothing that I wouldn't have liked my 01V96 to have been able to have done as well (apart from the vertical pairing; it could do that!). I lived with what the 01V96 could do and I can live with the X32. Roll on the release of the S16s...! Karl. P.S. One final thing is the firmware updates. The USB stick that I use to record the shows on will not work for firmware updates. nor will several other sticks I have. The only one that works is a very old 1GB stick. Not a complaint, just an observation. It took serveral attempts and an e-mail to Behringer to work that one out... [/QUOTE]
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