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<blockquote data-quote="Dan Mortensen" data-source="post: 83300" data-attributes="member: 2826"><p>Re: AC and signal cable of whatever type</p><p></p><p>Motivated by the info below, I spent a little while this afternoon trying to see what happens when a CAT5e cable is bent, kinked, stomped on, and otherwise messed with while connected between the X32 and an S16. There were two cables, first one of the Belden Data Tuff described earlier in the thread (but not the same one, this one was only 10' long), and then a generic chunk of cable that probably came from Monoprice or someplace similar.</p><p></p><p>Despite my best efforts, nothing affected either one.</p><p></p><p>Then I took a piece of black iron water pipe and wrapped the generic cable around it as tight and as much as possible, which turned out to be exactly 40 turns.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]152112[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Despite this apparent violation of the admonition to avoid wrapping the cable around a ferrous object, the connection between console and snake head continued just fine. Talking over a microphone connected to the snake didn't sound any different than did the 10' Belden cable when going back and forth between cables.</p><p></p><p>Using the only CAT5 measuring tool at my disposal, the Greenlee NETcat Pro 2, resulted in the following indications of length and continuity:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]152113[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>It was set up for 20 minutes or so in case the negative effects took a little while, but there was no detectible difference upon returning and redoing the listening and measuring.</p><p></p><p>Removing the iron pipe gave the following readings</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]152114[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>which show that SOMETHING changed, but it wasn't enough to affect the sound of one mic and one drive signal traveling through the snake.</p><p></p><p>The horrible aftermath of removing the pipe:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]152115[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>which was actually easily fixed with some straightening.</p><p></p><p>This is at best anecdotal evidence, but it is encouraging that the connection and transmission were so secure, at least with the minimum amount of data possible. It would be a bigger project than I had time for to generate maximum data going and coming, but maybe the factory can do that?</p><p></p><p>In conclusion, more testing will need to be done to declare that we are unlikely to have a problem with bending/kinking/stomping etc., but it is encouraging so far. While I was sure that I heard what I heard the way it was described in an earlier post, there is a chance that this incident could be a simple confirmation of Mortensen's Second Law, which can be found at</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.aes.org/sections/pnw/laws.htm" target="_blank">Laws For Audio Engineers</a></p><p></p><p>and is down about 3/4 through (it's not alphabetical for some reason), and the whole list is an enjoyable way to while away some time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dan Mortensen, post: 83300, member: 2826"] Re: AC and signal cable of whatever type Motivated by the info below, I spent a little while this afternoon trying to see what happens when a CAT5e cable is bent, kinked, stomped on, and otherwise messed with while connected between the X32 and an S16. There were two cables, first one of the Belden Data Tuff described earlier in the thread (but not the same one, this one was only 10' long), and then a generic chunk of cable that probably came from Monoprice or someplace similar. Despite my best efforts, nothing affected either one. Then I took a piece of black iron water pipe and wrapped the generic cable around it as tight and as much as possible, which turned out to be exactly 40 turns. [ATTACH=CONFIG]152112.vB5-legacyid=6282[/ATTACH] Despite this apparent violation of the admonition to avoid wrapping the cable around a ferrous object, the connection between console and snake head continued just fine. Talking over a microphone connected to the snake didn't sound any different than did the 10' Belden cable when going back and forth between cables. Using the only CAT5 measuring tool at my disposal, the Greenlee NETcat Pro 2, resulted in the following indications of length and continuity: [ATTACH=CONFIG]152113.vB5-legacyid=6283[/ATTACH] It was set up for 20 minutes or so in case the negative effects took a little while, but there was no detectible difference upon returning and redoing the listening and measuring. Removing the iron pipe gave the following readings [ATTACH=CONFIG]152114.vB5-legacyid=6284[/ATTACH] which show that SOMETHING changed, but it wasn't enough to affect the sound of one mic and one drive signal traveling through the snake. The horrible aftermath of removing the pipe: [ATTACH=CONFIG]152115.vB5-legacyid=6285[/ATTACH] which was actually easily fixed with some straightening. This is at best anecdotal evidence, but it is encouraging that the connection and transmission were so secure, at least with the minimum amount of data possible. It would be a bigger project than I had time for to generate maximum data going and coming, but maybe the factory can do that? In conclusion, more testing will need to be done to declare that we are unlikely to have a problem with bending/kinking/stomping etc., but it is encouraging so far. While I was sure that I heard what I heard the way it was described in an earlier post, there is a chance that this incident could be a simple confirmation of Mortensen's Second Law, which can be found at [URL="http://www.aes.org/sections/pnw/laws.htm"]Laws For Audio Engineers[/URL] and is down about 3/4 through (it's not alphabetical for some reason), and the whole list is an enjoyable way to while away some time. [/QUOTE]
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