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<blockquote data-quote="Dan Mortensen" data-source="post: 83710" data-attributes="member: 2826"><p>Re: CAT+power-cable test results</p><p></p><p>Thanks for posting these, I guess, but I'm not seeing that they are in any way similar to the problem that I had, or the problem that I think Michael was describing, or even the problem that I think you were describing.</p><p></p><p>Each of the posters in the links you provide did have a problem of some sort, but the first even says in the title it was a faulty cable, the next one was within the console with no S16 involved, the third one had S16's that never sync'd but was solved by replacing the units (presumably the S16's but he's not specific), the fourth one is a question about the connectors themselves, and the last one was solved by replacing the cable.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I'm reading more into your posts than you're saying, but I think you are being very unfair when you say that because several people are reporting issues that have been solved that there is then a reason why you should return your console and go to some other technology that you name. I'm glad your cable works fine with other systems, but that may not be an indicator that it will work with this system.</p><p></p><p>I have no idea if this is at all relevant, but when I first got my S16's and first connected them to the console, while I could set phantom and adjust trim and do a variety of control things, and the sync lights were all good, nothing I did could get the console to show signal. Finally I changed to another cable, and all was well. It turned out the first cable had only 3 connected pairs! The fourth pair apparently was the one that carried the signal to the console.</p><p></p><p>Since it's a given that all technology will have problems, it's not surprising that a wide variety of people are reporting problems. It's gratifying that most of them, including those you reference, are reporting some sort of solution, whether replacing components like cable or connectors, or replacing the major parts of the system -console/snake head- that are faulty.</p><p></p><p>Since all of this gear will turn into junk in too-few years, the two questions are: 1) how long do we get to use it until it's junk? and 2) how much do we have invested and how much will it cost to replace that investment when it ultimately turns into junk?</p><p></p><p>The affordability and general reliability (so far/ with a few exceptions/ once it's working it seems to stay working/ etc.) of the X32 family of stuff currently available to us and/or to Christian seems promising.</p><p></p><p>YMMV, and you are of course free to drop it and pursue something else. I personally have an almost 40 year very sporadic history with A&H and will prefer to stick with Behringer. Other people may feel differently.</p><p></p><p>Good luck to you and to us all with this issue and the inevitable others that will appear. I hope when your console comes back to you and you try another cable, that all is well and remains well. </p><p></p><p>And speaking of another cable, I think it is not a good plan to have only one long Ethernet cable at a gig. It seems like it will be advisable to have a backup, whether it's the built-in redundancy of the Gepco 4 wire Tactical cable (or similar), or multiple individual runs in your snake, or a coil of cheap stuff in your workbox that can be strung out in an emergency, or two of those three. Having an alternative seems imperative when the chips are down.</p><p></p><p>However, a show failure due to these intermittent snake connection issues is terrifying enough to motivate further research, and it's good to see and hear about that continuing research done by a variety of people.</p><p></p><p>Enough late night rambling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dan Mortensen, post: 83710, member: 2826"] Re: CAT+power-cable test results Thanks for posting these, I guess, but I'm not seeing that they are in any way similar to the problem that I had, or the problem that I think Michael was describing, or even the problem that I think you were describing. Each of the posters in the links you provide did have a problem of some sort, but the first even says in the title it was a faulty cable, the next one was within the console with no S16 involved, the third one had S16's that never sync'd but was solved by replacing the units (presumably the S16's but he's not specific), the fourth one is a question about the connectors themselves, and the last one was solved by replacing the cable. Maybe I'm reading more into your posts than you're saying, but I think you are being very unfair when you say that because several people are reporting issues that have been solved that there is then a reason why you should return your console and go to some other technology that you name. I'm glad your cable works fine with other systems, but that may not be an indicator that it will work with this system. I have no idea if this is at all relevant, but when I first got my S16's and first connected them to the console, while I could set phantom and adjust trim and do a variety of control things, and the sync lights were all good, nothing I did could get the console to show signal. Finally I changed to another cable, and all was well. It turned out the first cable had only 3 connected pairs! The fourth pair apparently was the one that carried the signal to the console. Since it's a given that all technology will have problems, it's not surprising that a wide variety of people are reporting problems. It's gratifying that most of them, including those you reference, are reporting some sort of solution, whether replacing components like cable or connectors, or replacing the major parts of the system -console/snake head- that are faulty. Since all of this gear will turn into junk in too-few years, the two questions are: 1) how long do we get to use it until it's junk? and 2) how much do we have invested and how much will it cost to replace that investment when it ultimately turns into junk? The affordability and general reliability (so far/ with a few exceptions/ once it's working it seems to stay working/ etc.) of the X32 family of stuff currently available to us and/or to Christian seems promising. YMMV, and you are of course free to drop it and pursue something else. I personally have an almost 40 year very sporadic history with A&H and will prefer to stick with Behringer. Other people may feel differently. Good luck to you and to us all with this issue and the inevitable others that will appear. I hope when your console comes back to you and you try another cable, that all is well and remains well. And speaking of another cable, I think it is not a good plan to have only one long Ethernet cable at a gig. It seems like it will be advisable to have a backup, whether it's the built-in redundancy of the Gepco 4 wire Tactical cable (or similar), or multiple individual runs in your snake, or a coil of cheap stuff in your workbox that can be strung out in an emergency, or two of those three. Having an alternative seems imperative when the chips are down. However, a show failure due to these intermittent snake connection issues is terrifying enough to motivate further research, and it's good to see and hear about that continuing research done by a variety of people. Enough late night rambling. [/QUOTE]
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