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<blockquote data-quote="Dan Mortensen" data-source="post: 83800" data-attributes="member: 2826">Re: Monitor out noiseHi Per,Comments in line:This is a place where we seem to be talking past each other. The default position for a monitor engineer is what allows them to hear exactly what is going on through the stage monitors, which is a listening volume that is at unity gain with what&#039;s going on on stage. Don&#039;t know if saying it twice in slightly different ways makes it clearer.The Monitor out pot is at unity gain when at full clockwise travel. That has nothing to do with &quot;max output levels and max gain on monitor amplification&quot;, it is &quot;making this the same level as that&quot;. We are talking about what happens before any gain adjustment on power amps; as long as the listen wedge amp gain is set the same as the stage wedge amp gain (and both are the same kind of amp), and as long as the monitor out pot on the X32 is set to unity which is full up, then the engineer hears exactly what is going on onstage.Does it make sense why that is the way to do it, and why I would be cheesed if there was not a workaround for the monitor out whine?&nbsp;&nbsp;There is no gain adjustment on most Meyer powered speakers (it is an extra-cost option, though, so some will have an attenuator not a gain). That way one speaker of a particular model has the exact same gain as another individual of the same model. Max gain and min gain are not relevant concepts. Volume is set by whatever is ahead of the speaker.&nbsp;I hate it when that happens. I&#039;ve taken to copying what I typed just before hitting &quot;post&quot;, just in case it disappears. I&#039;ve had it happen here and at the other live audio forum (and other places, too.) Thanks for taking the time to thoroughly respond, and I hope you are maybe seeing what it is that I&#039;m trying to say.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dan Mortensen, post: 83800, member: 2826"] Re: Monitor out noise Hi Per, Comments in line: This is a place where we seem to be talking past each other. The default position for a monitor engineer is what allows them to hear exactly what is going on through the stage monitors, which is a listening volume that is at unity gain with what's going on on stage. Don't know if saying it twice in slightly different ways makes it clearer. The Monitor out pot is at unity gain when at full clockwise travel. That has nothing to do with "max output levels and max gain on monitor amplification", it is "making this the same level as that". We are talking about what happens before any gain adjustment on power amps; as long as the listen wedge amp gain is set the same as the stage wedge amp gain (and both are the same kind of amp), and as long as the monitor out pot on the X32 is set to unity which is full up, then the engineer hears exactly what is going on onstage. Does it make sense why that is the way to do it, and why I would be cheesed if there was not a workaround for the monitor out whine? There is no gain adjustment on most Meyer powered speakers (it is an extra-cost option, though, so some will have an attenuator not a gain). That way one speaker of a particular model has the exact same gain as another individual of the same model. Max gain and min gain are not relevant concepts. Volume is set by whatever is ahead of the speaker. I hate it when that happens. I've taken to copying what I typed just before hitting "post", just in case it disappears. I've had it happen here and at the other live audio forum (and other places, too.) Thanks for taking the time to thoroughly respond, and I hope you are maybe seeing what it is that I'm trying to say. [/QUOTE]

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